Posted on 07/20/2009 10:29:56 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
It seems, that everyone is wired to react when they're confronted with evil. It's just that liberals are incapable of recognizing actual evil, so they invent things to classify that way.
This is the kind of garbage that keeps me smoking.
That’s insane.
On the other hand, they chose to live there.
Be careful what you ask for.
They will never stop. The anti smoking zealotry was never a health issue, instead it was always a control issue.
You sell your soul when you buy a condo or a house in a development that has an “association”. I’d move the hell out of there and I don’t even smoke.
Progressives think progress is them taking away our Liberties.
Personally, I wouldn't want to live next door to a smoker if smoked seeped from their apartment/duplex into mine.
Why do you have a problem with this? These people chose to live in an association-run complex, presumably because they figured the benefits outweighed the costs. HOAs are intended to limit behavior that imposes externalities on other properties, as apparently smoking can in multi-unit buildings, and this one chose to restrict it. What’s so bad about that?
It’s not alright when 4 people bought homes in a development never suspecting their right to smoke in there own unattached single family home would be taken away! Give me a break!
Next, eating meat in your home.
It sounds like they don’t smoke, so it really only affects who they can sell to. And where does it say they live in unattached single-family homes?
Besides, when they bought property in a HOA, they knew or should have known that the HOA could pass new rules.
“Why do you have a problem with this?”
I never said that I did. I simply stated that the issue was never about health, as was claimed for eons. Instead, it is about control.
“HOAs are intended to limit behavior that imposes externalities on other properties, as apparently smoking can in multi-unit buildings, and this one chose to restrict it.”
Thus proving my point. Have you ever lived in an apartment complex that has a high population of some minority groups where their cooking is extremely pervasive in the entire complex? Would you be just as accepting of HOA rules that prohibit the sale of units to specified minorities?
That would be illegal and completely unnecessary, but I would not object to rules prohibitting certain types of cooking that the kitchen ventilation was not equipped to handle (assuming it could get passed--and good luck with that if a large number of the residents like that cooking).
So they are saying the firewalls are defective?
Ah, the old, “we aren’t saying that smokers can’t buy the unit, go to the restaurant, be seen in public. We are just saying that they can’t participate in a behaviour that they enjoy while in the public....” argument.
See, it is about control.
I love the smell of liberals setting precedent in the morning, it smells like VICTORY!
I am extremely disturbed by my neighbors having liberal thoughts in their own home. For the safety of my freedoms and the health of my economic being, I demand that they stop right now. Also, I prohibit them from selling their homes to someone with liberal thoughts and liberal voting records.
That or they can live in any other developments. If smoke really does flow between units, it makes sense that you would have some largely smoking and other completely non-smoking buildings.
Or do you think non-smokers should be forced to put up with smoke in their homes?
First time the wind blows the wrong way. Smoking on patios and lawns will be gone also.
“That or they can live in any other developments.”
Not for long, as I stated in my first post on this thread. It is about control, and control mongers NEVER stop. If you think that this particular HOA did this on their own, go back and read the article.
Sounds like a business opportunity. 25 percent of the population smokes, so as more and more buildings go non-smoking there should be some money in building apartments that cater to smokers.
Also, the more private organizations voluntarily go non-smoking, the less likely non-smokers are to care about the issue and pass government bans. You should be happy about this trend.
“Or do you think non-smokers should be forced to put up with smoke in their homes?”
No, I think that when one choses to live in an apartment, or in close proximity to other people, one has to expect a certain level of noise, smell, etc. interaction with their fellow human beings.
Notice that the same actions are not being taken with regards to bbq smoke. Just as dangerous, but harder to get the mob to control. We just haven’t demonized bbq smoke enough yet.....
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