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How many Veterans are offended by the peace symbol and why? (vanity)
7-14-2009

Posted on 07/14/2009 11:35:38 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I’m a veteran, but no combat exposure.

I don’t associate the peace sign with anything other than a wish for peace. Who wouldn’t want that, (all things being equal)?

There was a time I found hippies amusing, now I completely detest them. But to me, they haven’t taken ownership of the peace sign, nor do they own the idea of peace. They’re just dirty, lazy, traitorous scum.


21 posted on 07/14/2009 11:45:58 AM PDT by brownsfan (The public schools and the SRM, they are killing us.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

People who not only won’t carry their load but expect me to pay their way offend me. The ‘peace symbol’ offends me about as much as cuss words written in Mandarin Chinese - in other words, not at all.


22 posted on 07/14/2009 11:45:58 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

PEACE, to be meaningful, must be the handmaiden of FREEDOM.

A man’s body may be at peace in the absence of war, but his soul cannot be at peace in the absence of liberty.


23 posted on 07/14/2009 11:46:22 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: ducdriver

My dad made sure I knew it was a sign of the broken cross when I was very young. I didn’t know about Nero. Thanks so much for the history and link.


24 posted on 07/14/2009 11:47:35 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: ducdriver
But many of heavy metal rock fans would agree with Nero and use it to mock Christ and His followers.

Not this fan of hard rock and heavy metal.

25 posted on 07/14/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Not a veteran but it is a symbol of radicals just as the swastika was. It merits the same contempt.

Having been a teen in the 60's, I remember that it was the symbol of those that spat on soldiers.

26 posted on 07/14/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

It pisses me off because most of the people wearing it have no idea how to achieve it.


27 posted on 07/14/2009 11:49:39 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a viking to raze a village!)
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To: MortMan; ~Kim4VRWC's~

MortMan, your comment made me think of a simpler way to put my rant above.

That symbol represents Peace through Submission instead of Peace through Victory. Theirs is a peace that means you are always the victim of the aggressor.


28 posted on 07/14/2009 11:50:06 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: ducdriver

bttt


29 posted on 07/14/2009 11:51:10 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Also, the peace symbol to me now stands for the hypocrisy of the left.

It’s at peace symbol wearing leftist’s protests where windows are broken, cars are burned, property is destroyed, and rocks are thrown at police officers.

Contrast that with conservative protests, such as the Tea Parties, where views and calls for change are peacefully expressed.


30 posted on 07/14/2009 11:52:06 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: mnehring
Peace Through Victory


31 posted on 07/14/2009 11:52:37 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Anti-nuclear protesters used it widely. Why do you think we won the Cold War and the USSR collapsed? Because hundreds of thousands of American Service members stood nuclear alert on bomber and missile bases and aboard submarines for decades! The Soviets knew they couldn’t win.

It wasn’t Diplomacy that brought down the Iron Curtain, it was Determination!


32 posted on 07/14/2009 11:53:25 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (So close to Postal)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Jesus and I see eye to eye on peace. We are both in favor.


33 posted on 07/14/2009 11:53:27 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The peace symbol like other symbols is used to express a particular point of view. I have been in the service for over 10 years and I value the fact that we live in a country where anyone can say whatever they want without fear of retribution from the Government. If you pick one cause to be “against” you are cheapening that right which has been protected for us by generations of dead soldiers. Unfortunately this particular symbol is used by many to further movements that directly oppose most of what I believe in. Does this offend me? Not in the least. This kind of freedom is what makes America so great.
34 posted on 07/14/2009 11:53:52 AM PDT by GOPVet
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

For me it symbolizes naivety and laziness...


35 posted on 07/14/2009 11:53:54 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Manly Warrior; mnehring

This is why I felt compelled to post this thread. I am very interested in the opinions of others, and their historical views. Obviously the last view days have been very busy with regard to that symbol. I’ve learned things within the first 20 posts. I hope it helps others.


36 posted on 07/14/2009 11:54:06 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

As a Viet Nam vet I associate it with an attitude of “peace at any price...better off Red than Dead”, etc. Some people don’t realize that a man has to look at himself in the mirror for the rest of his life for things he did or didn’t do earlier in his life and that he wouldn’t be a man if he hid behind a peace sign every time the going got tough. You just can’t get away from the fact that most of us believe there are some things worth fighting and, yes, dying for.


37 posted on 07/14/2009 11:54:22 AM PDT by vigilence
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

It offends me because it takes me back to the late 60’s and early 70’s and that whole period of craziness. It also offends me because my father was active duty (Army) at the time and he had to put up with “baby killer” crapola.


38 posted on 07/14/2009 11:55:26 AM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: awake-n-angry
Matthew 10:34 (New International Version)

34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

39 posted on 07/14/2009 11:56:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I’m not easily offended, so some chicken’s foot symbol certainly isn’t going to do it. It’s more likely to elicit a big eyeball roll than anything else. ...and the thought “yet another liberal, brainwashed, hopelessly naive fool.” But offense? Nah.


40 posted on 07/14/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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