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Secret of Scotland's Shrinking Sheep Solved
ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 2 July 2009 | Nayanah Siva

Posted on 07/04/2009 2:18:03 PM PDT by neverdem

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That was the title of the citation. Here's the abstract:

Environmental change, including climate change, can cause rapid phenotypic change via both ecological and evolutionary processes. Because ecological and evolutionary dynamics are intimately linked, a major challenge is to identify their relative roles. We exactly decompose change in mean body weight in a free-living population of Soay sheep into all processes that contribute to change. Ecological processes contribute most, with selection—the underpinning of adaptive evolution—explaining little of the observed phenotypic trend. Our results enable us to explain why selection is not realized even though weight is heritable and why environmental change has caused a decline in Soay sheep body size.

I'm bigger than either of my parents. Diet couldn't have any thing to do with it, no way. It must be man caused global warming. This is utter crap for science!

1 posted on 07/04/2009 2:18:04 PM PDT by neverdem
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its sheep have remained genetically isolated, and no other sheep have been brought in for breeding,

75 years of in-breeding creating more and more runt offspring.

2 posted on 07/04/2009 2:21:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem
Climate change, Scottish sheep suffer most ! Film at 11.

Sheep dip! Snake Oil !

3 posted on 07/04/2009 2:21:39 PM PDT by csvset
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4 posted on 07/04/2009 2:23:47 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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Global Warming.....!!The answer to our Obesity problem!!
who knew??


5 posted on 07/04/2009 2:25:05 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

And the smaller sheep who didn’t survive in the past are now surviving to adulthood. Isn’t that a good thing, that more survive because the winters aren’t as harsh????


6 posted on 07/04/2009 2:25:20 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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If more sheep survive because of milder weather, then the total number of sheep-pounds and sheep-wool goes up.

I don’t see any problem here.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 2:27:50 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: hinckley buzzard

You nailed the real reason!
I think you should get Freepers Points for the correct answer.


8 posted on 07/04/2009 2:28:45 PM PDT by rod1
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To: neverdem
seriously?
9 posted on 07/04/2009 2:30:05 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I wonder if any of these jeenyuses had enough sense to do a study on what foods the sheep were eating, what were available 24 years ago and in what relative abundance versus today? I doubt if the sheep subsist on just grass. Even if they do, they are many varieties of grass. Some would be better food sources than others. I think what we are looking at here is another Kaibab waiting to happen.


10 posted on 07/04/2009 2:35:36 PM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: neverdem

“Sheep lie! Sheep lie!”


11 posted on 07/04/2009 2:37:06 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: neverdem
Island (Insular) Dwarfism is a well known phenomenon. Smaller size allows the survival of breeding populations, where food supplies are strictly limited. This is much more likely to occur when there is little or no risk from predation.
12 posted on 07/04/2009 2:44:32 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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They note no changes in the quality or texture of the fur/hair during this period. A deficient diet should show such changes almost immediately. Same health, same product, just smaller? Smells like bs to me.
13 posted on 07/04/2009 2:46:27 PM PDT by allmost
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Note that if "climate change" is involved, then the result MUST be bad. Therefore the headline can't be the obvious conclusion "Global Warming Increases Sheep Population." We can't have that! What possible black cloud can we find in this situation? Ah, I know...."Global Warming Makes Sheep Smaller."
14 posted on 07/04/2009 2:51:02 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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So: Is there more crowding (due to larger population)?

Is there poorer diet in these fields? (So only smaller survive, so sheep grow less in the same time frame?)

Is there more inbreeding?

Is there better diet - so fewer small sheep die?

Are there fewer predators, so smaller sheep can stay alive?

...

No answers to the above, and the above are not addresses in the article = It must be global warming!

A full 1/4 of one degree change in global temperatures in 30 years = GLOBAL CATASTROPHE! Small sheep!

15 posted on 07/04/2009 2:56:38 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Researchers say climate change is the real culprit

Then there's no hope...soon they will be the size of rodents.

16 posted on 07/04/2009 3:13:52 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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I think you should get Freepers Points for the correct answer

Someday Freeper Points will be worth more than US currency.

17 posted on 07/04/2009 3:16:09 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: neverdem

Wasn’t there research done in the past that basically shows creatures stuck on an island will grown smaller versions of themselves over time, whereas the mainland creatures will pretty much maintain normal sizing? Or am I mis-remembering?


18 posted on 07/04/2009 3:16:24 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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Thanks for that. I should have read more of the responses. I was asking about insular dwarfism, but didn’t know what it was called. I just remember that I’d heard about the condition in the past.


19 posted on 07/04/2009 3:18:06 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: neverdem

It’s the wool. They leave them out in the rain. Everyone knows you can’t wash wool in warm water.


20 posted on 07/04/2009 3:26:12 PM PDT by dangus
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