Johnny from his pre-punk days when he was a roadie for Hawkwind.
Posted on 06/30/2009 10:53:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
But with 300 live performances, the notion of a “shared event” is lost.
It’s like a bar with an internet jukebox. A bar that selected 100 singles for the system (or later 100 CDs) had much more control over the sound and feel of the establishment.
SXSW in Austin has 2,000+ bands giving 10,000+ performances over 5 days (many free, but also many nighttime performaces with $150 wristband or $20 cover charge admission). It is the ultimate of “choose your own adventure” festivals, no two people have the same experience, even when they go to see the same performer or even the same performance.
With all due respect - most of the other acts besides The Who sucked.
CSNY - lefties with nice voices and some nice songs. Crosby’s pinnacle was The Byrds mainly due to Roger aka Jim McGuinn.
Jimi - A bit overrated in my mind. Ditto pot head Santana.
Creedence - some liked them but not me.
Blood Sweat & Tears - not that bad and not hippie America haters.
Edgar Winter & Joe Cocker - okay.
Sha Na Na - WTf were they doin there instead of philly.
The rest of the groups were crap or lefties.
Thanks for the list. It reinforces my earlier thoughts that Woodstock, with the execption of The Who, was a huge waste of time instead of a major cultural event.
It was more a masturbatory event for Baby Boomers to remind how special and important they are.
The Who and Pete Townsend get extra gold stars for Pete hitting Abbe Hoffman over the head with his Gibson SG. If only he had hit him even harder. ;-)
If you can remember Woodstock, you weren’t there.
Amen man. Let me tell that playing 2 1/2 hours at 4 am was probably not a lot of fun.
Pete Townsend had some recent problems with his web browsing activities but The Who’s music was top notch.
The rest of the group were lefty hippies or talentless scum. Townsend hitting Abbe Hoffman was priceless. I get the impression the whole thing was rather unpleasant for The Who including getting their drinks spiced with drugs.
Most of the American bands during the era were crap. The Byrds were good not due to Crosby but McGuinn.
Just rich snotty CA kids like Jefferson Airplane and The Dead who made crap music. They probably would have ended up in the Manson family. Probably most had trust funds.
There were hundreds of hours film shot (multiple cameras shooting many songs from different angles, plus interviews and site coverage) as well as at least one person on scene shooting video. And yet the footage of Abbie Hoffman getting thwacked apparently was missed.
I hear it can be heard on a bootleg audio of the Who performance.
In the book on the film, they discuss how there were a couple of production screenings of the full Woodstock footage on multiple cameras in sequence (ran something like 18 hours) and they laid "in the round" when they viewed the clips. They were watching it altogether to determine which shots and performances to use for the feature.
In Target they run an ad on the TV’s for the remix of Woodstock by Martin Scrosese. I like a lot of his work but I could not be bother to watch this except maybe The Who. Dirty spoiled and self important hippies.
I like John Lydon (aka Johnny Rotten) of the Sex Pistols (SP) because he despised hippies including Richard Branson (aka Weirdy Beardy) who’s Virgin label was their final home.
Lydon is a real libertarian and liked Newt. Only band that had an anti-abortion song (Bodies) which he claimed was neither pro or anti just pro-responsibility. Imagine that - the most famous punk band ever at about 18 years old writing & singing songs about personal responsibility while hippie bands preached the opposite!
The Gibson SG is a pretty solid piece of wood. I would rather go to the dentist than watch Woodstock. I would watch The Who.
Johnny from his pre-punk days when he was a roadie for Hawkwind.
LOL! Well at least he had good taste (sort of) with Hawkwind. Robert Calvert and I think Lemmie on bass. LOL! He must have been 15.
Yep. Lemmy. Motorhead was originally the name of a Hawkwind song.
And going back to Isle of Wight festival, the Deviants played outside the gates to the anarchists who tried but couldn’t get in.
I think there is some shared lineage between the Deviants, Pink Fairies, and Hawkwind.
The sound are somewhere between the Stooges and Pink Floyd.
I am not exactly in the camp that Pet Sounds was one of the greatest rock albums ever made. Brian’s dad or was it grandad was almost like Joe Jackson (Michael’s dad) but not as bad.
Most people share that view.
Ray and/or Dave Davies would have gladly cleaned Abbie Hoffman’s clock too, given the opportunity, I feel comfortable saying.
Brian’s dad had to be every bit as bad. Brian is deaf in one ear from being popped in the head. His dad forced Brian to deficate on a plate in front of the family one night because of an argument at the dinner table.
He’d whack Dennis Wilson with a belt in the bathtub because he could run away in there.
Stooges and Pink Floyd = that would be interesting. I was somehow got on Blender’s mailing list and they were sending the magazine for free to boost their circulation.
They had a story about the guitarist in the Stooges Ron or Dave - who died recently. i got the impression that Iggy aka James Osterberg was more middle class or upscale. He chased chicks and was more of a jock. The Stooges were like lazy trailer park low lifes.
Pink Floyd - well that is a lifetime story with lots of business and psychological issues. Also possibly one of the most literate bands as Gilmour was fluent in French and they were laregly from Oxford.
One of the financially most successful groups ever but it looked like most of the time it was very unpleasant. Poor Rick Wright died recently and appeared to suffer greatly under the tyranny of Roger. Rog another mega millionaire lefty and Bush hater.
LOL! Love Dave and Ray. Ray got them banned by getting into it with the creepy stage workers union thugs. The Kinks getting banned from the USA is what really helped The Who in the USA.
The Kink rows between Dave, Ray and drummer Mick Avory were legendary. Mick bashing Dave over the head after Dave trashed his drums in Cardiff, Wales. Mick runs away from the gig.
A sibling rivalry to end all sibling rivalries.
CCR ; Jimi Hendrix ; Ten Years After ; Johnny Winter ; Sly and The Family Stone ; Santana ; Jefferson Airplane ; The Band ; Canned Heat ; Grateful Dead ...
But The Who was my main impetus for hitching rides with a buddy at age 17 from eastern Conn. to Woodstock . And we bought tickets in advance . I believe 25,000 were sold . We know how many folks showed up .
Eew. What a creep. I knew he was pretty bad but not that bad. Wow.
Jacko’s dad yesetrday was interviewed and they had the video on the net. He was talking about projects and the new video and the funeral was a side issue. I think the father is thinking he is the new Michael. The whole Jackson clan are vultures.
Saw a Youtube video recently with Dave. Apparently they’re doing a gig somewheres and one thing leads to another and Dave knocks Ray out cold. Dave gets a little concerned and leans down to see if Ray is OK. At which point Ray comes to, and cold cocks Dave. I know this is true, cause I saw Dave himself telling the story LOL.
Yes it is a true story. I saw the video with dave telling it. Funny.
I have one of their paperbacks Well Respected Gentleman. Most of it is pretty funny. I loved the story of the young Kinks stunning The older Beatles when You Really Got Me went to #1 out of the blue. John and Paul cornered ray before one of the gigs they played together and they had some snide comments.
Dave was incredibly young when they hit it big. Maybe 16 or barely 17.
All this says is you have a very narrow (miniscule ?) range of appreciation.
We used to sing Country Joe & the Fish's "Fixin' to Die Rag" in Army basic training. Our company didn't think it was crap. And we were all volunteers, by the way.
Crap?
Like Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young ?
Like Jimi Hendrix ?
Like Santana ?
Like Jefferson Airplane ?
Like Canned Heat ?
These were nearly all among the best bands of the time. I can't recall an act there that didn't have hits heard on the radio daily.
The Who, on the other hand, sounded off-key and tired. I just listened to them on the new 40th anniversary DVD set.
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