Posted on 06/06/2009 9:52:01 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
The war was about secession, and secession was largely about slavery. So in a roundabout way, slavery was pretty central to the conflict.
My point was that talk about Southerners not wanting to be "slaves on the corrupt government plantation" doesn't very accurately describe the causes of the war either.
If someone accepted the principle of slavery but didn't want it applied to themselves it's not like they were great proponents of freedom. And just what was the "slavery" that 1860s Republicans wanted to impose on Southerners?
“Too bad there were not more Lees and less secessionists because Abraham Lincoln would have then peacefully served out his term to the benefit of most Americans, North and South.”
And from the rest of your “conclusion” it’s pretty obvious you have no clue as to why Lee said what he said.
By the time Lincoln had been elected, things had come to a head as far as the Southern states, their rights and the monopoly the North had on their shipping. Try digging alittle deeper before ascribing conclusions to Lee and Lincoln that don’t exist.
“And just what was the “slavery” that 1860s Republicans wanted to impose on Southerners?”
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The “Black Radical Republican” government in Washington and their surrogate carpetbaggers in the southern states ruthlessly subjected much of the South after the War.
Many voted with their feet and went GTT.
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The war initially was NOT about slavery, but about protecting NE industry at the expense of Southern agriculture. Tariff issues. Hence the title “War of Northern Dominance”.
This is one of the most pointless conversations I remember and I think this is enough about a subject that is painful for me. And others.
Pointless indeed. It's things like this that make it so hopeless:
The war initially was NOT about slavery, but about protecting NE industry at the expense of Southern agriculture. Tariff issues. Hence the title “War of Northern Dominance”.
You're welcome to tell family stories and make up names for the war. Let me know if you ever want to talk about the actual history of those days.
Oh Lord, not another name for the war? Will it never end?
I assure you it ended a very long time ago.
Wished I had never entered into the earlier conversation. It served absolutely no purpose, in that neither of us changed out mind about the root cause.
The only point I was trying to make was that the disdain for a corrupt central government is still very ingrained in the minds of many many people from the South part of the U.S.
We are seeing some of the regional conflict of interests that divided us then (not slavery, but economic). This time the old industrial states have lost a lot of their industry, some of which moved from Unionized labor problem to the non-union South. And at the same time those old industrial regions are where the highest taxes are and where the highest unemployment is centered.
What do you expect to happen in the NE, East, Great Lakes, and Southern Cal. regions as a result of the ongoing economic trainwreck? 6-9 months from now, it is not going to be pretty. Is Obozo and crowd going to raise taxes on everyone to support those regions. (Answer yes) Will it have consequences (Answer yes).
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