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Why Is Free Republic Allowing Liberal Trolls To Stay?
May 12 2009 | jveritas

Posted on 05/12/2009 12:07:37 PM PDT by jveritas

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To: wagglebee

You’re worth it.

BTW, I just realized, I don’t recall if you’re an RC or Protty or Preterist or what! LOL.

Usually such categories are not that critical to me as long as someone knows Jesus in their hearts.


641 posted on 05/13/2009 2:28:07 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

One of his other accounts is El Rushbo which is still open but that he hasn’t used since August 2007, he won’t tell us what name he was using from then until this account that he started in February of this year.


642 posted on 05/13/2009 2:35:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Pan_Yan

It seems that Free Republic continually has to walk the middle of the road somewhat - not ideologically, but between gravitas and entertainment.
***That there is some dern good ritin’, FReeper. And so was the rest of yer post.

There might be some merit to a conservative quiz on each homepage showing what things a Freeper supports and is most passionate about. But many Freepers wouldn’t want to fill one out for reasons that have nothing to do with their ‘conservative credentials’. And people lie.
***The fact that someone doesn’t fill it out would be very telling in itself. And it’s the liars that would get found out — those are the ones who are here for some kind of disruptive purpose and my hope would be that the mods boot them if they keep it up.

I would also like to see some way to segregate ‘no horseplay’ threads for those who wish serious debate or organization. However, unless you limit the membership such as on the caucus threads in the religious forum it would be hard to control. Once again, people lie.
***Yes, again we go back to that system currently working so well on the religion forum. If there were some kind of caucus-type categorizing at the moment a person posts a thread it would save FR a lot of headaches. Right now there’s useless categorizing when a FReeper opens a thread, you choose between various subject matters. A simple addition of what kind of thread you’d hope to see, limiting troll behavior rather than letting it be a free-for-all, would signal a tighter set of rules for the mods to go by. Sounds like a winner to me. But I doubt JimRob would go for it.

Concerning my analogy...
***It was a good analogy. Another good one might be Julius Caesar about to cross the Rubicon. Or the Whig party and how it fell apart due to the social issues facing it and how it became the republican party. While we’re on analogies, here’s mine for big tent republicanism:

I’m a big tent republican.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245

Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.


643 posted on 05/13/2009 2:36:20 PM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: presently no screen name

There are some true conservatives here but I see less and less of them. They know what better place for the non conservative to come but here.
***I’m afraid I don’t understand this sentence. Does it mean we’re witnessing a mass exodus of conservatives to some other site? If this is the best place for non-conservatives to come, what happened to the conservatives?

So to pretend this isn’t massive - not just one or two - is deception in play.
***By the time the owner of this website wakes up to the reality, it is likely to be too late. But what can you and I do about this issue, here and now? I have floated my suggestions and JimRob answered with the back of his hand, calling me a newbie. I’m reasonably certain that FR will at some point implement such a system, but it will be due to some alpha freeper promoting it.


644 posted on 05/13/2009 2:43:40 PM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Tax-chick
We could try it and see what happens ... but do we really want to hang out with epople who are always series? Booo-ring.

Idunno. Those epoples do some funny stuff...

645 posted on 05/13/2009 2:48:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; fr_freak

If you want a “War Room”, why not ask the mods and Jim to set up a forum within the forum, much like Religion or the Smokey Backroom?
***That’s actually a good suggestion. I second it.


646 posted on 05/13/2009 2:54:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yeah, but when you laugh at them, they get all upset and their noses run.


647 posted on 05/13/2009 3:18:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge."~Pr. 14:7)
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To: Slings and Arrows
“That boy ain’t right.”


Hank Hill might have said it, but I grew up with that saying.
I've used it a time or two myself. ;o)

648 posted on 05/13/2009 3:29:42 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rodgers)
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To: editor-surveyor
Did someone read his post to you?

Yes. It was Eric, my pet fish.

649 posted on 05/13/2009 3:29:55 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: HotLead61

Ohhh...I believe more than one responded to Bert that way.
In fact, more than one accused him of, to put it politely, tippling.
I think they did it to get a rise out of him, and were usually successful.

There were some people who were very upset with him at times, and rightly so.

However, in every encounter I had with him, he was kind, gentlemanly, and respectful towards me.

That’s the Bert I choose to remember.


650 posted on 05/13/2009 3:35:18 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rodgers)
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To: j_tull

Aw heck!
I c/p it, and didn’t proofread it.
My bad...

Thank you for pointing it out.
Correction made...;o)


651 posted on 05/13/2009 3:37:24 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Kevmo
Does it mean we’re witnessing a mass exodus of conservatives to some other site?

That's happened over the years already. No other site that I know of.

If this is the best place for non-conservatives to come, what happened to the conservatives?

Same thing in 'real' life - not enough active conservatives to do anything so the scum ran over us. Everyone wants to 'get along' the PC way. It's amazing how some swallow it all hook line and sinker.

it is likely to be too late.

Yep. That's why there is so much resistance to a 'clean' site with all their 'discussion is needed' crap. Conservatives know the difference between discussion and fighting.

calling me a newbie

Hey, you're in good company. Some 'conservative' posters say Sarah isn't ready - she needs more time. LOL! She was born ready. They see what open borders create - everyone who hates you will flock to what you have and make you change your ways - press one for English...
652 posted on 05/13/2009 3:38:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: KLT

You might be on to something there.


653 posted on 05/13/2009 3:40:14 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: wardaddy

were you here for the Elian Gonzalez fights? same cast of characters were on the wrong side of that one too.


654 posted on 05/13/2009 3:40:36 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: wardaddy; AuntB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Spiff; jveritas

To be fair, I don’t think that jveritas was a supporter of illegal immigration, wardaddy.

He did a great job translating those Iraqi papers for us, and the world.
It seemed that the media certainly wasn’t interested in it.

That being said, I totally agree with everything else you posted.


655 posted on 05/13/2009 3:47:07 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: counterpunch; jveritas

I was on a “secret troll list” once (maybe I’m still on there; don’t know... LOL...). That was for calling some of posters crazy for their ideas of how to get rid of Obama (like surrounding the White House with tanks and/or getting a U.S. Marshal to escort Obama out in handcuffs).

Now, at first, I thought this was humor and comedy, and I’m one for a good laugh now and again. But, I found out that some of these guys were serious about those two items — and I was a troll for telling them they were crazy (I believe I also called them out as having the “Obama Derangement Syndrome” too, as it was called in our conservative press, like blogs and other conservative writers... LOL...).

So — really — it’s not too hard to get on a “troll list” around here.

But, as to whether you really are one or not — that’s another question... :-)

Heck! I think I just got on another “troll list” in the last couple of days (at least someone’s personal troll list...) for calling Romney a member of a cult group and that the GOP better never run him again, or else they will *lose* bigtime...

So, I guess the real rule around here on Free Republic is that you get on a troll list whenever someone doesn’t like your opinion... :-)


656 posted on 05/13/2009 4:11:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: DLfromthedesert; misterrob

You asked of another poster — And whom did you support, Obama?

I don’t know about you, but I voted for Palin... :-)


657 posted on 05/13/2009 4:12:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Artemis Webb

You said — jveritas to many on FR if you dissent from them in ANY way you are a troll or a RINO.

No..., tell me this isn’t true! LOL...


658 posted on 05/13/2009 4:14:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: jveritas

Well..., I’ve got a suggestion for ridding the board of trolls. My rule would be if someone calls me a troll, definitely they should be banned... :-)


659 posted on 05/13/2009 4:15:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: adorno; jveritas

You said — I would dare say that most of the people who have replied to your post here, are not liberals. Heck, there might not be any in the list of posters.

Well, I’ve been called a liberal troll, but that was after I said a few people had lost their grip on reality for thinking that they were going to get tanks to surround the White House and get Obama out that way. I think I said that they were part of the Obama Derangement Syndrome for thinking that way.... LOL...

And — very promptly — I was called a liberal troll. I think I’m on a “secret list” right now — ready to be purged at a moment’s notice (at probably 2 A.M. no less...)....


660 posted on 05/13/2009 4:25:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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