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Bob Hunter commentary: NHL hidden in plain sight on Versus
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | May 12, 2009 | Bob Hunter

Posted on 05/12/2009 9:32:41 AM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: kevinm13
Leafs fans are like Chicago Cubs fans.

You guys still can't have Rick Nash ;-) (Toronto sports media taunt us Blue Jackets fans about picking him up at the end of his contract.)

21 posted on 05/12/2009 10:19:26 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

While I agree with many of the problems of being on VS his complaint is primarily based on a lie: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman took his league to Versus, then called the Outdoor Life Network, in 2005 because he didn’t like the treatment it was getting on ESPN.

Bettman didn’t go to OLN because he didn’t like the way ESPN was treating the league, ESPN opted out of their contract with the NHL, it was OLN or nothing. And to some level it’s been good for the league, for one thing OLN/ VS has been paying more than the contract ESPN opted out of, and they actually do put on supporting shows to help grow the audience. Slowly but surely VS is growing their audience and that will help the NHL. Meanwhile ESPN hasn’t made any kind of offer to bring the NHL back, so it’s still really VS or nothing.


22 posted on 05/12/2009 10:20:21 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: buccaneer81

Go Hurricanes!!! Game 6 tonight at RBC will rock, yay Carolina...


23 posted on 05/12/2009 10:21:38 AM PDT by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: AbeKrieger

That’s what the NBC contract is, NBC pays nothing directly to the NHL, instead splitting the ad revenue. Unfortunately it’s only 20 odd games a year.


24 posted on 05/12/2009 10:22:47 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: gcraig
Go Hurricanes!!!

Absolutely. I'm a big Ray Whitney fan.

25 posted on 05/12/2009 10:23:00 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: oh8eleven

You do realize that picture is over a decade old and meanwhile fighting in the game keeps dropping.


26 posted on 05/12/2009 10:23:48 AM PDT by razorboy
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To: buccaneer81

Versus is owned by Comcast. You would think that Comcast then would feature Versus in a somewhat prominent location. You’d be wrong. On my box Versus is channel 126 near the local weather channels and CSPAN2.


27 posted on 05/12/2009 10:28:55 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t know what the TV ratings are like, but hockey is HUGE down here in the Triangle. The ‘Canes are our only major-league professional team. This area is almost exclusively college sports-oriented (basketball, and to a lesser extent football), but the Hurricanes have won a lot of hearts. My boss’ll be at the RBC tonight for game 6!

}:-)4


28 posted on 05/12/2009 10:30:52 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: buccaneer81

ESPN basically told the NHL to go take a hike during the lockout. Even before that, they were treated like the poor step-child, relegated to ESPN2 so long as there was not a poker tournament or Australian Kickboxing scheduled.


29 posted on 05/12/2009 10:33:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Moose4

Winning a cup will do that! My Habs have been 16 years now without one.


30 posted on 05/12/2009 10:36:10 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: buccaneer81
Exactly. Fighting is a small but necessary part of hockey. Most hockey fans understand this. Your initial comment that Bettman is an idiot is true. Last weekend NBC chose to air the TPC golf tournament, and the Caps/Pens game 5 was nowhere to be found. I can't believe we have a NY Lawyer running this league who isn't smart enough to sign a contract the allows the network carrying his games to do this, WITHOUT the possibility of taking the game to another network ahead of time, even back to Versus.

I'd love to see it, but what is Disney's incentive to sign back up for the NHL on ESPN? They cater to the hip-hop generation, and the NBA isn't going to be kicked out of prime time during the NBA playoffs for the NHL playoffs. I don't trust that Bettman is smart enough to expand TV viewership opportunities and television exposure.

Here's another example of Bettman's TV exposure idiocy. I'm in Omaha, 550+ miles and 8 hours away from Denver. A couple of years ago I went to order the Center Ice package so that I could get the Avs games after their owner backed out of Fox Sports RM and formed his own "Altitude" network. Guess what? Omaha is considered home team area for the Avs, so their games were blacked out on Center Ice subscriptions in Omaha. I'm closer to the NHL cities of St. Paul, St. Louis, and Chicago, not that those teams games should have been blacked out either. The only way to get the Avs games would have been to get a dish, which I didn't want to do. Oh, and neither of the 2 local cable companies carried Altitude.

I'd love to see Bettman replaced with a hockey guy - someone like Scotty Bowman or Sweet-Lou Lamoriello or Ken Holland (Detroit GM).

31 posted on 05/12/2009 10:38:18 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick
Last weekend NBC chose to air the TPC golf tournament, and the Caps/Pens game 5 was nowhere to be found.

That should be the straw to break Bettman's back, but it won't be.

32 posted on 05/12/2009 10:45:42 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81; BraveMan; FBD
Was never a NHL fan, until due to lousy programming my wife & I tuned in to the WA - Penguin game.

Holy cow, talk about nonstop action.
I've been to a minor league hocky game (Milw Admirals) and the guys in the minors are every bit as big as any in the NFL with one major difference: the NHL's players are tougher, meaner and in one helluva lot better condition than anyone we've seen on the gridiron -- by far.
Constant action and while on ICE SKATES!!
Unreal.

My bride & I wondered why the game's been so woefully ignored.
Then we realized who plays hockey.

>doink!<

Can't have real men who show their passion and love of a game like that, can we? And of course not to forget, they're nearly all the wrong color.

33 posted on 05/12/2009 10:51:10 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: kevkrom
Boston and Carolina fans loved the fact that they weren’t been shown at all for the first half of their series,

I've been getting them on Fox Sports South.

Go Canes!

34 posted on 05/12/2009 10:52:38 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

Funny thing about the Pens/Caps — I’m getting the series on the local sports channel, and VS is blacked out, with no alternate channel for the Canes/Bruins (for dropping by during intermissions, at lest).


35 posted on 05/12/2009 10:55:21 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: buccaneer81
I'll take it any day over the trash talking and thuggery of the NBA

Hockey is just like basketball, except that men play hockey. :-)

36 posted on 05/12/2009 10:56:18 AM PDT by wbill
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To: kevkrom
Funny thing about the Pens/Caps — I’m getting the series on the local sports channel, and VS is blacked out,

That's how it was here in Columbus during the first round Jackets-Wings series.

37 posted on 05/12/2009 10:59:02 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
I'll take it any day over the trash talking and thuggery of the NBA.
I agree with your description of the NBA, although trash talking has been part of sports since forever.
Ever read stories (or see documentaries) about MLB back in the days of Ruth, Ty Cobb, etc? Great stuff.
38 posted on 05/12/2009 11:00:45 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Ever read stories (or see documentaries) about MLB back in the days of Ruth, Ty Cobb, etc? Great stuff.

True. Ty Cobb was possibly the meanest man in American sports history.

39 posted on 05/12/2009 11:02:21 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: razorboy
I realize two things:
1) It doesn't matter how old the picture is
2) You couldn't be more wrong that fighting in the game is dropping.

razorboy
Since Jan 26, 2009

Supporting your opinion with BS will get you creamed on FR, regardless of the subject.
40 posted on 05/12/2009 11:13:49 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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