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Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival
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| 5/12/2009
Posted on 05/12/2009 6:58:19 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Look at hubble picutres... millions of galaxies with millions of suns and potential solar systems.
There is life out there- I can’t wait to see what form it takes. DNA? Carbon Based? Cell Structure? maybe none of those.
A VIRUS is a entirely different life form, did you know?
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:02:12 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Is it too early to start calling this the “The Failed Obama Administration”?)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
For a more realistic take on UFOs, how about considering that the entire phenomenon is simply a bunch of nonsense that doesn't really exist? Please see:
http://skepdic.com/ufos_ets.html
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:03:51 AM PDT
by
GL of Sector 2814
(One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
To: Quix
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:04:49 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible. This idea is backed up experientially with the evidence of numerous testimonies of 'abductees', which show that 'alien abduction' experiences stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Also the sinful behaviors of the 'aliens' behind abductions, the false gospels and new age messages they proclaim, and their supernatural powers so very reminiscent of those described in the Bible as being had by angels, all adds up to make clear that 'aliens' are in fact the evil spirits of the Bible." I myself tend to agree with John Peel's (remember him?) conclusions:
...The UFOS do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the accepted natural laws of our environment....The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.~
John Keel,
UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse
pg 299
And with Jacques Vallee's:
"...The phenomenon behaved like a conditioning process. The logic of conditioning uses obscurity and confusion to achieve its goal while hiding its mechanism. I could see a similar structure in the UFO stories. I am beginning to perceive a coherent picture of the flying saucer phenomenon for the first time, now that I am pursuing the idea that UFOS may be a pyschological control system, and now that I am aware of their link to human consciousness. But I am not ready to jump to the conclusion that it is the technology of some kind of spacemen."
Jacques Vallee,
Anatomy of a Phenomenon
pg 6
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:07:43 AM PDT
by
Alex Murphy
(Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
To: Alex Murphy
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:14:17 AM PDT
by
mel
To: GL of Sector 2814
I've never put much stock in fuzzy photos or distant blinking lights.
On the other hand, those folks who believe they have been abducted have had measurable, psychologically traumatizing experiences. Are they real or hallucinations or the result of brain chemistry (something produced in the brain that behaves like dimethyltryptamine)? Are they visions or dreams? Are the creatures phantasms, or real beings...alien or demon?
I, of course, don't know.
But I do know that these people believe something happened to them. In some cases there is corroborative testimony from others of specific events and, overall, there is corroborative testimony of similar experiences.
The question is what is it?
To: Alex Murphy
I agree!
Even Hynek who was initially a harden skeptic came to believe that whatever was happening was, indeed, happening and was possibly of an interdimensional nature.
To: Alex Murphy
The phenomenon behaved like a conditioning process. The logic of conditioning uses obscurity and confusion to achieve its goal while hiding its mechanism.That statement can be accurately applied to Obama.;-)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
"Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible."I don't think that's Biblical.
Possibilities include:
- It's a bunch of hooey, it doesn't exist.
- There is nothing in the Bible that says God didn't make other creatures. In fact some such as the living creatures around the Throne are mentioned in the Bible.
- There is a spirit world with spiritual creatures aka Angels. I don't think the UFO's are them. The Bible describes spirit possession and it's pretty far from alien abduction.
- There is an argument that says the entire universe was created for man, and will end in conjuction with human history. That makes other life less likely as their history would have to be coordinated with ours, else our history causes their universe an untimely demise. Assuming only one universe.
- Elijah was taken to Heaven in a "chariot" described as having "wheels within wheels". So it's possible the craft are some form of angelic technology.
- Mad, Cow obsessed, Scientist
- Advanced military. also cow obsessed.
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:28:48 AM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Are they visions or dreams? Are the creatures phantasms, or real beings...alien or demon? A combination of fraud and shared cultural delusion.
Again, from the skeptic's dictionary (a very useful site!)
http://skepdic.com/aliens.html
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:31:58 AM PDT
by
GL of Sector 2814
(One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
To: GL of Sector 2814
Do you post original thoughts, or just regurgitate from that website?
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:35:46 AM PDT
by
thecabal
(Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Will Scully be there?
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:38:18 AM PDT
by
sticker
To: thecabal
Do you post original thoughts, or just regurgitate from that website? I just checked my posting history, and out of the hundreds of posts I've made I've referenced that website 5 times (that includes the 2 times on this thread).
I guess I really am obsessed! Well, admitting I have a problem is the first step. Let the healing begin...
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:43:55 AM PDT
by
GL of Sector 2814
(One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
To: GL of Sector 2814
A person setting out to prove something exists is similar to one who sets out to prove the same thing doesn't exist.
They both start from a point of bias and their judgment will be so colored.
Skeptics are the mirror image of those who believe without evidence...neither approach the subject scientifically. To both, their belief is a matter of faith and/or desire...and not the product of rational thought.
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Isn’t it reasonable to approach these sorts of things (UFOs, ESP, the occult, etc.) rationally and scientifically and then come to the conclusion that it’s all a bunch of nonsense?
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posted on
05/12/2009 7:56:43 AM PDT
by
GL of Sector 2814
(One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
To: GL of Sector 2814
Scientific exploration of a matter terminates when you conclude that you have the answer and cease to admit new evidence or consider the possibility that you may, in fact, have reached the incorrect conclusion.
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Is there not any subject for which the proper response is not continued scientific inquiry but instead pointing at someone and laughing? Belief in geocentrism and vampires (as such) come to mind just offhand.
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posted on
05/12/2009 8:45:03 AM PDT
by
GL of Sector 2814
(One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
Scientific exploration of a matter terminates when you conclude that you have the answer...You mean, as in global pronunciations that skeptics aren't capable of rational thought? (Your post 15)
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posted on
05/12/2009 9:55:21 AM PDT
by
JoJo Gunn
(Such a pity, to see Freepers still addicted to the Hollyweird teat.)
To: JoJo Gunn
You mean, as in global pronunciations that skeptics aren't capable of rational thought?Point out the exact statement where I said or implied that.
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