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Secure deletion: a single overwrite will do it
H Online ^ | 1/17/09

Posted on 03/11/2009 1:29:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 03/11/2009 1:29:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Very Interesting.


2 posted on 03/11/2009 1:32:28 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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However, data recovery is 100% impossible on a hard disk shattered by a 5.56 round then burned... :)


3 posted on 03/11/2009 1:34:56 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: LibWhacker

I take the default in DBAN, it is good enough for me.


4 posted on 03/11/2009 1:34:57 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Flipping between 1 and Zer0 a few times couldn’t hurt. The computer can do the work while you sleep. Where’s the problem here?


5 posted on 03/11/2009 1:35:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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Or, you can be less dramatic and use scissors.


6 posted on 03/11/2009 1:37:20 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: LibWhacker

A lot depends on what equipment you have to read the data with. I double wipe all my customer drives, random patterns, every bit, every sector, every track, every cylinder.

No exceptions.

If the drive is broke, I really break it ... into pieces, then make sure to bend the platters completely.

I used to design and manufacture hard disk drives. You might be surprised what can be recovered. I take the side of the software manufacturers, I think they are doing it safe.


7 posted on 03/11/2009 1:38:20 PM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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My understanding is that spin rotation of magnetic molecules can be derived from as many as eight past magnetic impulses. This is only true for the most extremely expensive recovery techniques, though.

Odds are, those are never used with you or me.


8 posted on 03/11/2009 1:38:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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....whether it be an old 1-gigabyte disk....

HA!

One Gig ain't old.

You want old? I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the Cat's Ass.

9 posted on 03/11/2009 1:45:25 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage...)
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Personally, I’m a little suspicious that this comes out just as Leon Panetta is taking over at the CIA!


10 posted on 03/11/2009 1:46:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Full height 5MB for me. Seems weird even typing that since I have a 1TB drive that cost about $100.


11 posted on 03/11/2009 1:54:39 PM PDT by uncommonsense
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You want old? I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the Cat's Ass.

Heh heh... me too... I thought I was the king of BBS SysOps when I had my 10Meg InCider drive connected to my Apple IIe running Ascii Express and CatFur for my AppleCat modem! Warez D00d!
12 posted on 03/11/2009 1:55:21 PM PDT by adaven
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Well, I've done my share of stupid deletions through the years (without a current backup) -- but never had time to wait on some company who may or may not recover the data for a hefty price. So it was stay up all night for a few days and re-enter a month of more worth of (home-based business) transactions.

It's comforting to know I did the right thing. I guess.

Backup! (Talking to self, here.)

13 posted on 03/11/2009 2:01:01 PM PDT by browardchad
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd_O7-rqcHc
14 posted on 03/11/2009 2:05:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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more interesting as I understand it using a wand or handheld device may not introduce enough current to fool a forensic reader. Enough Magnetism may be present to read it. You need to wipe with the same or more current to eliminate the data.


15 posted on 03/11/2009 2:12:22 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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The real point is that at $100/TB (and falling). Disks are so cheap there's no reason to do anything other than physically destroy an old disk. Why worry about where the data is or how many copies reside on the disk?

It's worth noting that the only 'approved' decommissioning technique for hard drives which contained classified data remains physically melting the drive. That's good enough for me. :)

16 posted on 03/11/2009 2:15:05 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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BUT!!!

Okay, so you are working on a very secret document in MS Word. you then close the document, copy it to a jump drive and securely delete the original. Done! Right?

No, because MS Office (among others) will write (seemingly hidden “temp” files to disk that can esaily be recovered in plain form to be read by the offending app. There are any number of free appliations that can find and ressurect such files.

Wiping a file is not nearly enough, one must wipe the drive.


17 posted on 03/11/2009 2:17:38 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Freedom is not free)
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Correction: Wipe the free space of the drive


18 posted on 03/11/2009 2:18:40 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Freedom is not free)
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I think the author is correct, however like all superstitions and myth’s, it’ll die hard, and people will keep spending money. I shred drives when I’m done with them, which is, I guess, best practice, and more practical than any other method considering the fact that I dispose of 10-20 a week sometimes, all with critical info on them.


19 posted on 03/11/2009 2:19:57 PM PDT by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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You want old? I remember when a 10Meg hard drive was the Cat's Ass.

Geeze, you guys must be babies... our first home computer didn't even have a hard drive.. everything was on 5.25 inch floppies. :-)

20 posted on 03/11/2009 2:30:27 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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