Fighter jets scrambled after UFO follows plane over Athens: jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO

telegraph.co.uk ^ | 9:30AM GMT 10 Feb 2009 | Matthew Moore

[Quix]

Welllll, I pray for all the delay and time the Good Lord might give us.

And I’m thankful He promised to shorten the days—whatever that means.

It is terminally sobering to realize how many even Evangelical . . . even Pentecostal Christians are still in lala land on the times we are in.

Many have a vague notion or even a conscious affirmation that we are at least in the birth pangs of the END TIMES yet they go on living as usual.

Boggles my mind.

[Quix]

The 6” west end upright is not sealed but it has a cap on it with a hole for the hose from the pond pump beginning the 250’ of garden hose bit . . . and the hole is duct taped over pretty well but not a total seal.

There’s also a temp probe that goes down in that upright to almost pump level.

[familyop]

On my planned greenhouses, the climate here is rather brutal: an intermontane basin at over 9,000 feet elevation on the Rockies. It snows in July once in a while, and wind gusts are often very high (110 mph wind load requirement on residential construction here). The air-freezing index here is about 2,500. One mean annual temperature study (Forestry study) concluded about 35 degrees. Thus...my plan to install radiant heat systems with multi-wall polycarbonate walls in the greenhouses and all radiant heat construction that can go into and onto the house (both active and passive).

I’ll have a more thorough look at the notes on your greenhouse work in a while (to get mental images of those).

[Quix]

tHANKS THANKS.

Heading to bed shortly.

later.

[apro]

"The thing about UFOs is that the exist. After all, anything flying that has not yet been identified IS an Unidentified Flying Object. Thus, UFOs exist, and are infact not uncommon.

It is just that when identified they turn out not to be alien in origin.

I believe that during the 80s and late 70s some of the tests of the F-117 prototypes and operational craft, as well as the B-2, could easily have been mistaken as alien UFOs. Maybe people see experimental craft, and being UFOs (since they are not identified) and of strange construction (maybe for radar-signature minimization, or maybe trying to optimize performance at hypersonic speed leading to unorthodox shaping), and assume they are ALIEN UFOs.

As for Alien UFOs, the crazy thing is that people automatically scoff at the idea. Say 'I saw a UFO' and people immediately think you are crazy. Say aliens may exist, and you are a kook. It's not the disbelief ....it is the total and utter derision, the almost spring-loaded need for people to mock the person saying that. Which is quite interesting ...and for the most part only for aliens (someone can come and say they saw a lake-monster in Lake Tele or at Loch Ness, or they saw any one of various abominable/yeti/sasquatch/wendigo etc hairy-man monsters ....and they will get a keen, though skeptical, audience. However, mention aliens, and you'll be luck not to get an insult before the sentence is concluded). Again, weird. Almost brainwashed.

Personally, I don't buy into that UFO mumbo-jumbo (I'd have to freaking see one, and then wait 10 years to see if the craft I saw will not appear in some flightJournal magazine as some secret military prototype super-jet) ....but I find no reason to mock people who do, and I also know that the universe is ONE --- BIG ----PLACE."

Well said, mate. ;-)

[apro]

"Greece is the only EU country left where this could get play. Something like over 67% of the adult population never use the internet. Tabloid conspiracy theory stuff is still ripe for that audience."

You are actually incorrect in all accounts, including the suppose low % of the adult population never using the internet. Also this story is not 'news', its way old, it first appeared in some Greek news outlets back in November 4th, 2008 and most Greeks didn't even pay attention to it because of the major nation wide strikes hitting the country around that time, little green alien men were the last thing on most Greeks minds vs. unfavorable changes the government wanted to make and other national political scandals hitting the country during that time period.

Original story appeared in Greek media outlet dated 11/4/08

[familyop]

I had a thorough look at your comment #119. You've done some great work on that so far--dark-colored hose for collection, water and soil for thermal mass and all.

Because of the brutal climate here, I'm going to install a more active radiant heat system but with homemade collectors and other cheap materials to supplement the passive heating (polycarbonate, etc.). There will be a minimal power plant (for pumping and controls) that will produce and use about 20 watts of power for each greenhouse (~ $500). Tubing will be buried at least 3 feet in the soil (tomatoes).

Granted, strong and automatic ventilation will be needed, and for a place off of the power grid, it will also need to consume little or no electricity. I've been playing with the beginnings of a ventilation design that will use a passive hydraulic gadget and steel linkage, bearings and louvers (with some stainless parts requiring an expensive initial cost but for a design requiring no electricity at all).

On the other discussion, I tend to understand certain people more than most people do--not so much those with RAD but those who have rather strong feelings about certain noises, inanimate objects (e.g., cold steel) and the like. ...was a very mild case for me (not like "Rainman") but enough to help in understanding and relating to those kids and adults, and now, in later life, having more of a feel than most about how physical things work. Thus...my tendency to focus.

[JerseyHighlander]

Greece Hits EU Internet-Use Bottom 73 Percent of Greeks Have Never ...
Apr 24, 2006 ... The EU’s statistical agency also found that internet use among Greek students ... Greece also had the third-lowest rate of internet access by ... European counterparts in internet use, according to the Eurostat survey. ...
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/percentofgreeks.html - 13k

[Quix]

Well said, mate. ;-)

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INDEED!

I think the below paragraphs are his best parts of that post:

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I believe that during the 80s and late 70s some of the tests of the F-117 prototypes and operational craft, as well as the B-2, could easily have been mistaken as alien UFOs. Maybe people see experimental craft, and being UFOs (since they are not identified) and of strange construction (maybe for radar-signature minimization, or maybe trying to optimize performance at hypersonic speed leading to unorthodox shaping), and assume they are ALIEN UFOs.

As for Alien UFOs, the crazy thing is that people automatically scoff at the idea. Say ‘I saw a UFO’ and people immediately think you are crazy. Say aliens may exist, and you are a kook. It’s not the disbelief ....it is the total and utter derision, the almost spring-loaded need for people to mock the person saying that. Which is quite interesting ...and for the most part only for aliens (someone can come and say they saw a lake-monster in Lake Tele or at Loch Ness, or they saw any one of various abominable/yeti/sasquatch/wendigo etc hairy-man monsters ....and they will get a keen, though skeptical, audience. However, mention aliens, and you’ll be luck not to get an insult before the sentence is concluded). Again, weird. Almost brainwashed.

[Quix]

If you are on a hill . . . south sloping hill . . .

You might try this . . . set up a well insulated trough running the length of the hill. Perhaps the diameter of the trough could be 12”—14” or even larger. Glazed with multilayers of polycarbonate and painted flat black etc.

At the top of the covered trough, a suitably sized ‘windmill’ could turn a small generator sufficient to power the pumps, probably—at least some pumping capacity . . . which . . . over 6-12 hours should be sufficient for storing the daytime heat. And, there might even be enough battery storage to help with cooling fans etc.

The heated air could also likely be used wisely as a kind of natural forced air heating boost.

Shoot—if there’s enough of a hill or cliff even . . . that could be a lot of heated air of probably a pretty hot temperature most days.

Are you in Montana or Wyoming or some such?

Prayers for the Yellowstone Supervolcano!

Of course, one could dig some holes or bury some porus pipe 4-5 feet under ground and use the cooled air through them for cooling the greenhouse in addition to or instead of swamp cooler sorts of wet filters.

I think you focus very admirably. Now if you could bottle it and inject a few folks! LOL.

Love the dialogue.

Thx.

[Quix]

What did it show?

I wonder if it’s available on the net.

Is that Discovery Channel?

[The Cajun]

Is that Discovery Channel?

History channel.
They really didn't show anything new except that the FAA and the airline involved (forget which one) attempted to do a cover up job (a very poor one at that).

[Quix]

Interesting that they’d bother even.

Crazy.

They are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INSULTING to the intelligence of the public.

“Swamp gas!”

“Project Mogul” . . . when the dummies weren’t used until 5 years AFTER Roswell.

. . . Crazy.

[ILS21R]

I didn’t get a chance to log in yesterday.

Anyway...United taxi mechanics saw the object. It was also seen by people in the airport parking lot. Lots of audio transmissions referring to the UFO. As another poster said, the cover up was very poor. Many saw the object shoot up at incredible speed. I was hoping for a photo, but they didn’t show one.

[Stonewall Jackson]

I can tell you what a lot of the Gulf Stream UFO sightings are. The University of Auburn has a tradition where some of the students get long plastic tubes (usually the same stuff the covers your clothes when they come back from the dry cleaners, but longer), seal off one end, attach a wooden frame with a can of sterno on the other end, and then send them up at night. When the weather conditions are just right, these makeshift hot-air balloons go aloft and float all over the area, resulting in dozens of UFO sightings.

[Travis T. OJustice]

I was hoping for a photo, but they didn’t show one.

NO WAY! I'm totally shocked!

[Quix]

Only 5% of the overall sightings are authentically seriously strange to other worldly.

It would still be a huge deal if it was only

0.0001%.

ONE AUTHENTIC CASE

would be a SUFFICIENT big deal to alter reality.

[Quix]

There have been some noises of some of those folks taking photos in the parking lot being threatened if they published their photos.

Thanks for your perceptive post.

[Scythian]

Quix, you should have seen the a$$ whooping I took on my chemtrail post today, - LOL

[Travis T. OJustice]

It would still be a huge deal if it was only 0.0001%. ONE AUTHENTIC CASE would be a SUFFICIENT big deal to alter reality.

On this I will agree, It certainly would alter REALITY! I guess we aren't REALLY that far apart, seeing as you just stated that UFO sightings of other-worldly craft are NOT reality.

I'm happy we've found some common ground!