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Air Force: Dogfighters out, warthogs in
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 1/29/2009 | Megan McCloskey

Posted on 01/29/2009 4:37:49 AM PST by markomalley

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To: wny; fredhead
didn’t they stop making these a good 10 years ago?

The last new one was delivered in 1984. In 2007 Boeing won a contract to build 242 new sets of wings for the A-10 fleet. Supposedly they will stay in service till 2028.

61 posted on 01/29/2009 7:09:59 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: markomalley
“There are no aces for flying ground support,” White said.

Beg to differ. Read up on a guy named “Hans-Ulrich Rudel.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Ulrich_Rudel

He wasn't a nice guy (he was Nazi's Nazi...) but he was definitely a ground support “ace” and he had input on the design of the A-10.

62 posted on 01/29/2009 7:10:42 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: SJSAMPLE

A pod of laser-guided 2.75s would be nice for engaging enemy personnel.


63 posted on 01/29/2009 7:18:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: SES1066
To accommodate it they had to offset the nose landing gear which is unique to the A-10 as a production aircraft.

I didn't know that either. Neat. I always thought the A-10 was just a great no-nonsense looking aircraft.

64 posted on 01/29/2009 8:09:46 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: RSmithOpt

Folks on this thread don’t know their butt from a hole in the ground.

The A-10 HAS been upgraded! The changes were significant enough to rename it the A-10”C”!

However, that doesn’t mean it is always the best at CAS. “Bombs on target” quickly and accurately is better than watching a plane fly close to you. Years ago, you HAD to get close to be accurate. I know - I lived those days.

Targeting pods and PGMs have changed reality. With a targeting pod, you can see the target better at 15000 feet than you can flying a plane at 200’. In addition, with ROVER, the ground guys can point out exactly what they want you to hit, reducing blue-on-blue accidents. And with PGMs, you can put the bombs on the bad guys more accurately at 10,000 feet than you can dropping at 200’.

THAT is the reality NOW. And in a place like Afghanistan, where the bad guys pick the local to fight, a fast moving F-15/16 can orbit near the scene, and quickly arrive in position to support the troops in contact. That is faster than an A-10, and allows a few planes to support ground commanders over a broader area.


65 posted on 01/29/2009 10:04:21 AM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thanks for the update....glad to hear someone in DOD was allowed to invest into some common sense. The Falcon has been the USAF’s workhorse for years....awesome aircraft. The Eagle is the quick accurate heavyweight no enemy wants to go head to head with......hated to see the Tomcat retired. Best long ranged multiple target fighter the Navy has every used.


66 posted on 01/29/2009 10:10:24 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Mr Rogers

And don’t forget about the modded Global Hawks flying long range single wery high value target missions. The Biting Bloodhound.


67 posted on 01/29/2009 10:18:26 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yes, there’s something about women in flight suits.

;-)


68 posted on 01/29/2009 2:43:21 PM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: CholeraJoe

I’ll bet you did!

I used to enjoy watching them play while shooting touch ‘n goes on the weekend.


69 posted on 01/29/2009 3:16:11 PM PST by Professional Engineer (You don't know the power of the Dork Side. | Can he lead a normal life? No, he'll be an engineer.)
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To: Marauder

The sniper in the picture is Snr. Armn. Polly-Jan Bobseine.

She’s so cute.


70 posted on 03/24/2009 5:38:32 AM PDT by myknowledge (Nothing beats Australia's F-22EMA Raptor)
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To: markomalley
The dirt bags call her “whispering death” that should tell you something.
71 posted on 03/24/2009 5:39:51 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: markomalley
Creech Air Force Base?

Is the entire base painted in Earth Tones?

72 posted on 03/24/2009 5:53:17 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: markomalley

The A-10 is brilliant for this war. But will it be brilliant for the next war, the war against the nuclear-armed Chinese? You have to be prepared for the next war. Playing catchup is a loser’s strategy.


73 posted on 03/24/2009 5:58:34 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: RSmithOpt

The A-10 HAS been upgraded with new avionics and weapons systems! That is why it is now the A-10C. Work started years ago - BEFORE 9/11!

Also, with modern targeting pods and precision bombs, an F-15E/F-16 can hit the CAS target from 20,000’ as accurately - or MORE - than an A-10 at 200’.


74 posted on 03/24/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: appleseed

Too bad you don’t understand that Vietnam was 40 years ago. An F-15E at 20,000 feet is very quiet from the ground...


75 posted on 03/24/2009 6:02:50 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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