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Is there a move for reasonable Republican primaries?

Posted on 01/26/2009 7:13:00 PM PST by HogsBreath

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To: HogsBreath

National primary or a couple super Tuesdays where the states are rotated each election. If you keep it the way it is, the whigs are going to keep picking dud candidates.


21 posted on 07/10/2009 8:21:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Closed primaries are a necessity.

I disagree. You want a candidate who is going to pull the independents in during the general. Closed primaries will filter out independents. Hence, more dud candidates.
22 posted on 07/10/2009 8:24:50 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
I have to disagree with you. Closed primaries will filter out more Democrats fouling the water than it will Independents, who should know going in that they couldn't vote in Republican primaries.

The open primary is what gives us duds like McCain.

23 posted on 07/10/2009 8:28:29 AM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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Closed Primaries are absolutely required if we are going to have a even playing field with RINOs.

They may not be perfect but they are better than Open Primaries, which are just a nightmare for corruption.

This is the quiet issue that is more important than some policy issues...and this is where the RINO attorneys work behind the scenes to coopt conservative influence.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 8:28:31 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Sarah Palin is running for President -- Get used to it.)
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To: HogsBreath
More to the point..... are the Republicans going to come up with a system that actually helps them to select the best candidate?

The current "mash all the primaries into January following two years of content-free sound-bite fests masquerading as debates that nobody gets to see" system is a complete failure.

If the R's were smart, they would expend some effort identifying and actively recruiting good and viable candidates -- a combo of the old "smokey back room" approach, with the apparently necessary evil of modern-day primaries.

Beyond that, they've got to reform the allocation of delegates.... like, maybe, putting the small states first and the big states last, so that the delegate selection process has to last into June before a candidate can possibly be chosen.

25 posted on 07/10/2009 8:28:47 AM PDT by r9etb
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I heard Bob Dole is thinking of running again... 8^)


26 posted on 07/10/2009 8:29:39 AM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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I wish the primaries were much closer together. By the time it was my state’s turn to vote, it was all over. Have them in a week and don’t declare a winner until the last vote is counted.

But that's precisely the problem ... if you mash them all into one week, you encourage the candidates to go for style over substance. It's a great way to pick terrible candidates, with no time to assess their relative qualities over time.

I would much prefer that the primary season be stretched out significantly, with the order being selected such that it's impossible to gain a majority of delegates before June.

The weak sisters would drop out as the early primaries came out badly for them; and by June you'd be left with the truly viable candidates.

If one could somehow inject real debates into the process, on real issues, that would be swell, too. The real red-meat debates would begin in May, once all of the poor candidates had left the stage.

27 posted on 07/10/2009 8:33:27 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
My idea is to change the order of the primaries every 2 years. The order would be based on the outcome of the previous presidential election. The state where the Republican got the greatest percentage of the vote would go first followed by the others in order.

That's a good plan, which I would modify by ensuring that the delegate count couldn't result in a majority until very late in the primary season.

28 posted on 07/10/2009 8:35:38 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: airborne

I don’t believe McCain was picked by Dems trying to sabotage the election. I think he was picked by Republicans playing the “electable” game. The sad fact of the matter is that no one sold the message of small government effectively. You can make people sign an oath that they swear to vote GOP in November and you’ll still get the same candidates if there isn’t a candidate who can sell the message effectively.


29 posted on 07/10/2009 8:36:36 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
My idea is to change the order of the primaries every 2 years. The order would be based on the outcome of the previous presidential election. The state where the Republican got the greatest percentage of the vote would go first followed by the others in order.

I've proposed a similar concept, except that instead of raw percentage of vote, it would be based on net gain of vote share from the previous election. I.e., states trending more Republican would get more early "say" than states trending less Republican.

I would also suggest some sort of formula apply so that there's also some guarantee of a mix of small, medium, and large states as well as geographic spread.

30 posted on 07/10/2009 8:51:00 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: mysterio

So you’re saying the big crossover of party re-registrations here in PA didn’t make a difference?

Sorry, but the combination of open primaries and media interference did make a difference. At least here in PA it did,IMHO.


31 posted on 07/10/2009 8:54:06 AM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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To: airborne
There was an organized campaign of Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary, and even that didn't change the outcome of the Democrat primary. I just don't see closed primaries as the answer.
32 posted on 07/10/2009 9:04:55 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
“Organized Republicans”? Isn't that an oxymoron? ;^)

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

33 posted on 07/10/2009 9:21:06 AM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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