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The Popularity of Teen Pregnancy
TownHall ^ | January 7, 2009 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 01/08/2009 8:10:37 AM PST by dbz77

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I read somewhere that Christian birthrates in Europe are declining while Muslim birthrates are increasing.

Should not pregnancy be encouraged among Christian teenage girls in Europe?

1 posted on 01/08/2009 8:10:37 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

Only if they’re married.
BTW I watched a gazillion Christmas movies over the holidays (ok, it’s a weakness of mine) and it was interesting how many of them involved single mothers. In fact, almost ALL of them centered around a single mom who was wonderful. Now, it’s not to say that I don’t think there are wonderful single moms, but aren’t at least a few of them not wonderful? The media loves single mom’s for some reason. Maybe because they don’t like men very much.


2 posted on 01/08/2009 8:15:29 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: dbz77
Should not pregnancy be encouraged among Christian teenage girls in Europe?

Only if they're married to a man with a job.

One can only wonder why so many adults seem determined to undermine abstinence efforts and are unwilling to help our teenagers find a path toward a healthy and promising future. You have to wonder why a respected, peer-reviewed journal chose to published an article based on such an obviously flawed methodology.

It's simple - they don't want there to be any suggestion that sex outside marriage is morally wrong or socially damaging. Married vs. unmarried, rather than under-20 vs. over-20, is the significant distinction.

3 posted on 01/08/2009 8:19:48 AM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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The Popularity of Teen Pregnancy

I think the poplular part preceeds the pregnancy.

4 posted on 01/08/2009 8:20:36 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (In memory of Liberty and Freedom: July 4, 1776 - November 4, 2008 - Pray for the USA)
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“...almost ALL of them centered around a single mom who was wonderful.”
This has been going on since the late 70’s. I remember TV commercials back then would show the lack of a male parent in the family unit.
5 posted on 01/08/2009 8:20:45 AM PST by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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Liberal propaganda trying to promote their "alternative lifestyle" as reasonable and normal.

Watched a movie the other day in which one of the main characters was living in an "open marriage." It was portrayed as a "wonderful, freeing experience" which made both parties' lives better...right.
6 posted on 01/08/2009 8:23:09 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: duckman

Yes, it’s not a particularly new trend, but it seems to have gained steam, or maybe that’s just some warm fuzzy left over from all the Christmas movies!


7 posted on 01/08/2009 8:24:51 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

True.


8 posted on 01/08/2009 8:25:06 AM PST by dbz77
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To: Sudetenland

Oh yeah, better until one of them gets the green eyed monster! It’s abnormal for humans to want to share their partner with someone else.


9 posted on 01/08/2009 8:25:40 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: dbz77

We HAVE become a feral culture.


10 posted on 01/08/2009 8:26:00 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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The media loves single mom’s for some reason.
It has a lot to do with the drama.

Note that in many classic fairy tales, the protagonist did not grow up in a traditional two-parent household.
11 posted on 01/08/2009 8:26:29 AM PST by dbz77 (uuote)
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It's simple - they don't want there to be any suggestion that sex outside marriage is morally wrong or socially damaging.
How socially damaging?

I am 31 years old. Every unmarried woman I know who is my age or older has had sex, and they are all doing just fine.
Married vs. unmarried, rather than under-20 vs. over-20, is the significant distinction.
Under-20 v. over-20 is the more significant distinction.
12 posted on 01/08/2009 8:28:48 AM PST by dbz77
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Watched a movie the other day in which one of the main characters was living in an "open marriage." It was portrayed as a "wonderful, freeing experience" which made both parties' lives better...right.
What movie was that?

The only movies I have heard of that puts a positive light on open marriages are low-grade porn.
13 posted on 01/08/2009 8:30:05 AM PST by dbz77
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Perhaps, but in those cases non traditional household was not held in high esteem. (at least not in my recollections—I’m not a fairy tail expert).


14 posted on 01/08/2009 8:34:41 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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Let’s get one thing straight at the outset: the increase in teen births was primarily in the 18- to 19- year-old group — in other words, primarily college students

Whoaaaa! He's making a huge leap there with ZERO evidence to back it up. College students are presumably the *least* likely subset of 18-19 year olds to have a babies. They are much more likely to be using contraceptives than non-college students of the same age, due to the widespread availability of contraceptives and "morning after" pills on most campuses (both at the college health centers, and condom dispensers in dorm bathrooms), and due their enrollment in college being a sign of at least somewhat above average planning-ahead habits. They are also much more likely to have abortions if they get pregnant, since if they've started college they're very unlikely to have planned to have a baby before graduating, and very likely to have other plans that are not consistent with having a baby (even to give up for adoption).

I'm sure a significant number of these 18-19 year olds giving birth are inner city welfare types and "trailer trash" types, many of whom are already on their second or third baby at that point, having dropped out of high school before the first one arrived. A smaller, but significant percentage are probably girls who have married young, but not gone to college (since it's extremely unusual for young women who are planning to go to college right out of high school to get married before they either graduate from or drop out of high school). There are probably quite a few young military wives represented.

15 posted on 01/08/2009 8:37:22 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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BTW I watched a gazillion Christmas movies over the holidays (ok, it’s a weakness of mine) and it was interesting how many of them involved single mothers. In fact, almost ALL of them centered around a single mom who was wonderful.

I grit my teeth when I see these movies-—I has the SINGLE father who worked two jobs to provide for us kids while “the stuck in 60’s” wife was out boozing,doing drugs and sleeping around......people are absolutely bewildered when I tell them I never send a mothers day card......sorry—just a little bitter


16 posted on 01/08/2009 8:39:16 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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I’m sorry to hear that. I grew up in a great family, both parents worked, but they loved us and spent time with us. I tried to give my kids the same (altho I didn’t work—mainly because I remembered how alone I felt without my Mom).
But, at least you grew up to be a FReeper! :)


17 posted on 01/08/2009 8:43:19 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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and they are all doing just fine.

Oh? All happy, satisfied with their lives? No STD's, abortions, drinking problems, drug use, depression? How many voted for Big Daddy Obama?

As you pointed out in the post regarding birthrates in Europe, the failure to form families is in itself a social problem, very closely related to the spread of liberalism.

18 posted on 01/08/2009 8:43:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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The media has removed the stigma against teen pregnancy by making television shows and movies glorifying it. Since most of the pinheads of this nation get everything they know from television, they now think it is acceptable behavior. It is quickly becoming the norm.


19 posted on 01/08/2009 8:44:16 AM PST by ronnyquest ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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I am not teenager but I can remember when, in college, the whole idea of inhibitions was square. Only squares stopped and asked themselves what they were getting into.

However, what is life without inhibitions? You will look back at your life and it will be a blur…one long, unending episode of undifferentiated mindless sameness. No stand-out people, experiences, memories, etc.

People with this approach to life are hopelessly jaded at 26. Nothing new under the sun for them... but, and here’s the real pathology… they spend the rest of their lives trying to find that something ‘new’, ‘exciting’ and ‘authentic’ that they blew off at 15 and would not at this point, recognize or appreciate if it fell on them from the 10th story.

The sensitivity to feelings, circumstances and individuals to which our inhibitions introduce us, was squandered and these people who become the shamefully crass and vulgar losers we all see running around trying to look and act 17 when they’re 40+. I am speaking from personal and direct observation.

A couple family members, who were real libertines in their youth, are themselves these pathetic relics… shallow, coarse, worn out and superficial….I am sorry for them.


20 posted on 01/08/2009 8:46:30 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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