'Jesus was born in June', astronomers claim

telegraph.co.uk ^ | December 9, 2008

[Uri’el-2012]

If Dave Reneke were familiar with the Word of G-d,
he would know from Luke 1 and John 1 and Chronicles
that Yah'shua was born on the YHvH commanded
Feast of Tabernacles.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[YHAOS]

Where's that "oh, no. not that 'stuff' again" picture?

[himno hero]

only one problem.

God gives us a product we can call reality. Reality has certain laws. IF a something something is sitting in orbit at less than 22,230 miles it falls to earth in the absence of propulsion.

At 22,236 miles it could hardly be a “beacon”, this the “star” was sitting at a number significantly lower. Maybe a couple of hundred miles? Whats a jet look like at 5 miles up?

[papagall]

Just an old man's opinion, but since the Bible identifies the Messiah as ‘the lion of Juda’ and the Wisemen consulted astrology to know when and where the Christ child would be, it is more likely that Jesus was born in the August window of the Leo sign on astrological charts. Perhaps precession of the Planet can account for the seeming discrepancies?

[stockpirate]

You may not be aware of the recently released top secret UFO report released in the UK and posted here on FR.

The report said two F15’s gave chase to a UFO the size of an aircraft carrier. The pilots were ordered to fire their missles at the object. Just when the were perpared to fire the aircraft carrier sized UFO dissappeared. As in poof.

[Varda]

Jerusalem is much further south then we are. The average December high is 64 with an average low of 50. Their lambing season is at this time, so the shepherds would be in the fields then.

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Honest question time - I always think about this in December, for some reason. And yes, I celebrate Christmas in December like everybody else, even though I am convinced that December 25th is not His birthday and there is no record of the Apostles celebrating His birth.

But here's my question - how do believers decide which facts are important and which ones are not? Is the only important fact in the Bible about the resurrection of Jesus and everything else is interesting to think about but unimportant?

[netmilsmom]

>>Is the only important fact in the Bible about the resurrection of Jesus and everything else is interesting to think about but unimportant?<<

If it’s in the Bible, it’s important.
Since we don’t have a birth certificate (kind of like that guy, born in Kenya who thinks he is the messiah) it doesn’t matter the date.

Sometimes it is the thought that counts!

[Uri’el-2012]

The question is whether you believe and trust
the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1
or you trust the traditions of man

Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot
(Sukkot is the Feast of Tabernacles or booths,
where we live in temporary shelters.
Sukkot is when YHvH took on a temporary
garment to be with His People
and to die as the Lamb of G-d on Pesach
in order to bring salvation to all
who would call on His Name: Yah'shua
( YHvH is become my salvation)).

Sukkot as the date is supported by Elizabeth's
pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the
Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.

Zacharias served as a high priest and
based on his tribe, we know when he served
(1 Chronicles 24:7-18) and when he was
struck dumb and when John was conceived.

John would have been born on Pesach.
Most Jews believed that Elijah
would come at Pesach to announce
the coming of the Messiah (Malachi 4:5).

Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin Elizabeth,
Elizabeth was six months pregnant (Luke 1:26)
Thus the timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.

John (1:14) tells us that Yah'shua was made flesh
and tabernacled among us.

The word "dwelt" in the Koine Greek is:

σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwell

Eight days after the beginning of Sukkot is
another Holy Feast Day called Shemini Atzeret.

Eight days after a Jewish male is born he is circumcised.

After the Eighth day comes the the most Joyous day:
Simchat Torah or
the rejoicing in the Torah (The Word of Elohim).

Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah
where the light entered the temple.

Biblical Dates for the Birth of Yochanan the Immerser
and for the Conception and Birth of Yeshua HaMashiach

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[netmilsmom]

So the Feast of Tabernacles is in October, right?

[himno hero]

Space and time travel is not new. It has been discussed many times in the Bible , but, just not in those words.

Feature Gabriel visiting Mohammed for one evening of conversation some 700 years AD/. From that evening of sitting around a campfire and sharing a beer Mohammed creates a “religion”.

Point 1) is Gabriel did not seemingly age after 700 years.
Point 2) is to become a religious icon, it takes years of apprenticeship. Here we see “devine”hands at work. If the hands were so devine, they would have written the Koran once and not continued to re work it with their b/s scholars.

Thus there is another example of space and time travel and it is seasy to see how something can poof and begone. NO spoofin just poofin.

It will be interesting if and how they intervene when someone initiates a nuclear exchange excepting one thing.
Five bible characters have depicted a glazed mid east...perhaps the end of Islam?

[netmilsmom]

>>Since life begins at conception, it is entirely appropriate to celebrate His coming to earth at that time.<<

You win!!!!

[Uri’el-2012]

So the Feast of Tabernacles is in October, right?

Most often.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[mysterio]

That’s kind of neat that they can calculate the time of his birth. I don’t really care if it’s not December 25. Having Christmas then is still nice.

[JimRed]

If the team is correct, it would mean Jesus was a Gemini, not a Capricorn as previously believed.

As if this pagan superstition of astrology matters at all.

[SoftwareEngineer]

I am not arrogant enough to decide what is important and what is not. Instead I focus on what is written in the Bible and proven. The birthday of Jesus is neither noted in the Bible nor proven by historians.

So, I celebrate December 25th. It probably is wrong, but I am happy that we take atleast one day a year to acknowledge His birth.

[Obamageddon]

Your calculations pretty much agree with this website, which says that the true 2000th lunar anniversary of the birth of Jesus was August 22, 1998,or on September 11, 1998 by the solar calendar dating we now use.
Funny how that pencils out perfectly with the date of The Feast of the Immaculate Conception (Dec. 8) on the Catholic calander.

[Uri’el-2012]

The Beginning of the YHvH commanded
Feast of Tabernacles in 3 BCE was October 5th.

14th of Tishri 3758

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Salamander]

Lucky them!
I’m freezing my butt off!

I still don’t think He was born in December, though.

I’d bet during Passover, simply because it has such a perfect, Divine symmetry.

[Salamander]

I can top that.

Our local little town this year, instead of putting a *star* on top of the community Christmas tree has instead placed a *snowflake*.

Flake of wonder; flake of light.
Flake with royal beauty, bright.
Westward leading, still proceeding
Guide us to thy perfect....ski shop??

Humbug.
It just doesn’t do it for me.