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Respected London magazine rates Chicago Symphony No. 5 in the world and tops in the U.S.
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11/23/08 | ANDREW PATNER

Posted on 11/23/2008 7:49:08 AM PST by Borges

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I'm a Chicagoan so I gloat.

Here are the Top 20...

1) Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Amsterdam
2) Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
3) Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
4) London Symphony Orchestra
5) Chicago Symphony Orchestra
6) Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra
7) Cleveland Orchestra
8) Los Angeles Philharmonic
9) Budapest Festival Orchestra
10) Dresden Staatskapelle
11) Boston Symphony Orchestra
12) New York Philharmonic
13) San Francisco Symphony
14) Mariinsky Theater Orchestra (tours the West as the Kirov Orchestra)
15) Russian National Orchestra
16) Leningrad Philharmonic
17) Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra
18) Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
19) Saito Kinen Orchestra (Japan)
20) Czech Philharmonic

1 posted on 11/23/2008 7:49:08 AM PST by Borges
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Classical Music Ping


2 posted on 11/23/2008 7:51:11 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

thank you.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 7:56:37 AM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Borges

No Academy of St. Martin In-The-Fields? No LA Symphony?

Weird list.


4 posted on 11/23/2008 7:59:12 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Borges
Mariss Jansons...the Latvian-Jewish

That struck me as weird. Were all the Catholics, Lutherans and Seventh Day Adventists in the article also identified as such?

As they say in Brooklyn: "What's up wit' dat?"

5 posted on 11/23/2008 8:06:32 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: Borges

Trying to win more action in the Windy City now that Obama has won?


6 posted on 11/23/2008 8:15:40 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Borges

Georg Solti was the Vince Lombardi of the CSO.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 8:17:43 AM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: Borges

What you really need is a great conductor, the orchestra only has to be reasonably good.

But the great ones have all passed on.


8 posted on 11/23/2008 8:24:33 AM PST by proxy_user
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People underestimate how much the conductor contributes. Great orchestras can sound very flat under an uninspiring conductor.
9 posted on 11/23/2008 8:26:22 AM PST by Borges
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To: B-Chan

I’ve always thought Neville Marriner was sort of a hack.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 8:28:21 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

It is a crime that the NY Philharmonic is now only the 5th best in the US.


11 posted on 11/23/2008 8:43:03 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: B-Chan
No LA Symphony?

The LA Philharmonic is on the list.

12 posted on 11/23/2008 8:44:08 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

They’ve been under less than inspiring leadership over the last 20 years or so. It will be interesting to see what Alan Gilbert does there.


13 posted on 11/23/2008 8:48:41 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

There was a fine article in the New Yorker last year, where they compared the stick technique of Furtwangler and Mengelberg with the way today’s jet-set conductor leads an orchestra. The modern style is rather homogenized compared to the old days.


14 posted on 11/23/2008 8:50:28 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Borges

Last time I went to the NY Philharmonic, Bernstein was conducting.


15 posted on 11/23/2008 9:05:40 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: Borges

I disagree with putting the Met Orchestra so low.

What they’ve become under Levine, (especially in the Wagnerian reperatoire), is arguably in the top five. Certainly better than the Kirov under Georgiev, who with the ham-handed Bang-Bang...er Lang-Lang just murdered the Rachmaninoff Second Concerto in a recent DG recording.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 9:09:12 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Pharmboy
Back in the early 60's Vladimir Horowitz once joked with Emil Gilels what cultural exchange really was.

"You send us Jews from Odessa, and we send you Jews from Odessa."


17 posted on 11/23/2008 9:16:13 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Borges

The CSO was number 1 under Sir Georg. But they were also peerless when Giulini conducted.


18 posted on 11/23/2008 9:25:42 AM PST by ottbmare
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To: sarasota
The Chicago has always been damn good. First under Reiner, then under Solti they were arguably one of the top if not the top American ensemble.

From personal experience I can tell you that when Solti and Barenboim had them any concerto soloist never had to worry about anything. You were as safe as a baby in its mother's arms when you played with them and could concentrate solely on developing your musical line. If you decided to slightly change something on spur of the moment regarding rubato or having a little fun with the score direction allargando they were there with no fear of a train wreck.
19 posted on 11/23/2008 9:26:13 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("I love democracy. I love Free Republic")
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To: Borges

Philly has fallen that far, huh?


20 posted on 11/23/2008 9:30:21 AM PST by gusopol3
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