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Roy Masters Sunday conversation Live thread (preparing for the shape of things to come)
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Posted on 11/09/2008 10:05:30 AM PST by whatisthetruth

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To: whatisthetruth; Aliska
All I can do is hope people listen in and judge for themselves, and hope they see the value in him that I see, and that is his insights in dealing with the brainwashed masses that surround us. [whatisthetruth]

Give me a break. The Watchman.com Web site says: "As a young boy he [Roy Masters] became interested in hypnotism. He added to his hypnotism techniques after studying African witchdoctor rites during his apprenticeship at South African diamond mines when he was 18."

Here you have someone who has "mastered" hypnosis prompted by an African witchdoctor and your claim is that it's not his radio listeners who are brainwashed, but the "masses that surround us."

41 posted on 11/09/2008 12:51:25 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Oh so now I'm "spreading wide my disagreement with" the atonement of Christ? Can you please point out where I have said that?

You might want to type in my name in the religion section and review my posts. In fact I think you had better.

42 posted on 11/09/2008 12:51:34 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

***I’ve been listening to Roy for over a year now.. He’s Spot On in so many ways.****

I used to listen years ago in the early 1980’s ( How Your mind can keep you well). The more I listened the more I realized he was a loon.

Does he still hypnotize people and change their shoes by puting their right show on the left foot just for laughs?


43 posted on 11/09/2008 12:53:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Colofornian
Why are you so threatened by Roy Masters? LOL! He doesn't own a commune in Oregon, never did, where he no doubt keeps all his hypnotized subjects locked up so he can exploit them sexually.

I don't know who this watchman group is and who died and made them an authority on what is or isn't a cult, half of the stuff you posted from them is distorted and untrue, so it seems you're just buying into the smear of a good man using the same tactics that the Marxists use to smear all conservatives and Christians.

Roy Masters is not hidden, he has a national radio show on over 100 stations, he's live on the Internet and XM, he opens up his home to these Sunday conversations live and on the Internet for all the world to see that they may JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES, in other words he has nothing to hide, so why are you trying to smear him?

44 posted on 11/09/2008 12:55:21 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Roy Masters espouses certain principles for dealing with evil in ourselves and our enemies, do you have better ones to espouse that we may utilize? If you can’t see that dire times are headed our way, then you won’t see anything Masters says of value.


45 posted on 11/09/2008 1:00:55 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth

***He doesn’t own a commune in Oregon, never did, ****

Strange.. many years ago, before Internet, one of the national News programs (60 Minutes or 20/20) had an interview with him ON HIS OREGON COMMUNE. I saw the program and recognized his voice from when I listened to him on the radio. They were giving a cow an inocilation in the hip at the time.


46 posted on 11/09/2008 1:06:03 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: 1000 silverlings
Oh so now I'm "spreading wide my disagreement with" the atonement of Christ? Can you please point out where I have said that?

My reference wasn't to you personally. (I was talking about Masters. Don't get all huffy & puffy)

47 posted on 11/09/2008 1:06:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Iwill get all huffy and puffy if you imply I am in anyway against Jesus Christ.


48 posted on 11/09/2008 1:07:57 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You must be talking about Bhagwan Rajneesh who had a commune in Central Oregon back during that time and whose followers eventually took over some town. That was not Roy Masters.


49 posted on 11/09/2008 1:09:57 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth
I don't know who this watchman group is and who died and made them an authority on what is or isn't a cult...

...And I didn't know that you died and became an authority, either (using your own weak standard).

...half of the stuff you posted from them is distorted and untrue...

You're so funny. In post #26 you are quick on the standard of needing "proof" and then you think you can just post that something is "distorted" and yet not offer proof. (Hey, if you're going to use standards to apply to others, may I suggest you start by applying them to yourself!)

...using the same tactics that the Marxists use to smear all conservatives and Christians.

OK this makes you 2-for-2 in using a smear "Marxist" (see post #26). (So I guess, again using your-own-standard-that-you-can't-even-personally-adhere-to, you go around accusing others of engaging in "Marxist tactics" -- which is a smear tactic in and of itself. Debater, you have refuted thyself).

...JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES...

Listen, nobody on radio advocates what they believe on some of the most important theological beliefs on each and every broadcast. It's usually tucked away. Until the Internet came along, some of the most offensive things you'd find in Masonry couldn't be readily uncovered until you were nth number of degrees into being one.

50 posted on 11/09/2008 1:15:21 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

That’s why we have the bible, like good Bereans we can search the scriptures to see whether or not the things men say are true.


51 posted on 11/09/2008 1:19:08 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: whatisthetruth; Ruy Dias de Bivar
Roy Masters espouses certain principles for dealing with evil in ourselves and our enemies, do you have better ones to espouse that we may utilize? If you can’t see that dire times are headed our way, then you won’t see anything Masters says of value.

OK, whatistruth advocates that people listen to Masters for themselves. I agree. But be selective on WHAT you listen to Masters about. Here go to this interview between Masters and Walter Martin: http://www.fhu.com/player/roy-masters-debates-walter-martin-highspeed.html

And above, whatistruth says that Masters espouses certain principles for dealing with evil in ourselves and yet on this Masters-Martin interview, Masters claims that saved Christians no longer sin. (So how can they "deal with evil in ourselves" if Masters doesn't even acknowledge the evil of remant sin in Christians?)

52 posted on 11/09/2008 1:22:11 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: whatisthetruth

You must be talking about Bhagwan Rajneesh who had a commune in Central Oregon back during that time and whose followers eventually took over some town. That was not Roy Masters.

Nope. It was Roy Masters. B Rajneesh had his own commune and lots of Rolls Royces.


53 posted on 11/09/2008 1:22:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: whatisthetruth

***I don’t know who this watchman group is and who died and made them an authority on what is or isn’t a cult,***

When the Applewhite group committed group suicide in South California all the major news media got interviews with the Watchman group since they keep up with most of the cults. Did you miss it?


54 posted on 11/09/2008 1:27:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Colofornian
I don't claim authority, just experience which is the best authority anybody can have, you go by what you read, I go by what I see for myself. You have an agenda, and it's not a good one, go ahead smear all you want, I'm not here to get into some tit-for-tat argument with you on 'opinions' offered by some obscure group.

Roy Masters offer us tools in the battle against the tactics of Marxism, what does your watchman group offer? I trust people to judge for themselves from the horses' mouth if Roy makes sense and not listen to some third party like you and your obscure group who don't have a clue but for some reason feel threatened by this man.

55 posted on 11/09/2008 1:27:45 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Roy Masters never had a "COMMUNE" obviously if it was 20/20 or 60 minutes doing the story, they obviously wanted to make Roy Masters into a cult figure with a commune and stuff, which is probably how this watchman group got involved.

I've been to Masters' ranch' in Oregon back during that time, and it was not a commune.

56 posted on 11/09/2008 1:35:51 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth; Colofornian

Well God is Truth and His revelation to mankind, the bible, is Truth. Truth is not subjective. That being said, it’s still a free country and we will all keep it that way, with God’s help


57 posted on 11/09/2008 1:36:35 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Colofornian
Yea, I heard that debate, it was a great one and Masters wipes the floor with Walter Martin imo, from my understanding of Mr. Masters principles is that you never stop dealing with evil, you first deal with it in yourself, purge, expel, exorcize, become saved, etc. then afterwards you deal with it on the outside in all the unsaved around you.
58 posted on 11/09/2008 1:41:51 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth; Colofornian

This is not a biblical view, it’s a man’s view. Theology vs philosophy


59 posted on 11/09/2008 1:46:00 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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60 posted on 11/09/2008 1:53:15 PM PST by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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