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Guns Magazine ^ | June, 2008 | John Sheehan

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I tried to post this thread this morning, but the board wasn't cooperating. The article is a long read, but interesting.

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[Osage Orange]

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[CRBDeuce]

In a war of maneuver, the machinegun was considered of limited advantage being too cumbersome it was believed, to keep up with the rapid advance of the infantry.

That was the Maxim....Browning (and Westinghouse) took care of that with the M-1917 .30 cal machine gun (actually first patented in 1901, but ignored by military due to lack of interest!). Westinghouse mfr'd 30,150, Remington-12,000, and Colt-600. Weight 37 lb with water cooled jacket.

[OKSooner]

BLOAT.

[Billthedrill]

BTT. Great stuff in the article including a rather shocking table of "zero" ranges for the day's rifles. And yes, if your Springfield is zeroed for 500 meters and your target's at 50, you're going to be shooting a little high.

I also note that the American grenadier was armed with some automatic pistol designed by a feller named Browning with the model year of 1911. Wonder whatever happened to that one?

[Lurker]

also note that the American grenadier was armed with some automatic pistol designed by a feller named Browning with the model year of 1911. Wonder whatever happened to that one?

I hear tell it turned out to be a pretty good pistol, and that Browning fellow it seems did fairly well with one or two other designs as well.

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[fr_freak]

I have a question for the gun club: I’m looking for a good semi-auto rifle of the 7.62/.308 variety. Something I could use to reach out and touch something out to 800m or so. Any recommendations? I was looking at the mini-30, but I’ve read some reviews which suggest it is not the most accurate.

[MHGinTN]

One of them is in my nightstand. Been Nickeled and the several parts are from different producers, but it still works just fine. Has a nice upgraded eight round magazine with HydraShoks, and Packmeyer grips, too.

[X-FID]

I got my eye on a colt .45 1991, I love the look and it's a descendant of the 1911, stainless of course.

I never had a .45 but I had a colt commander 9mm and it had a good feel to it.

[javachip]

Here's an M1903 with the ladder sight flipped up. The sight is calibrated out to 2800 yards. When the sight is down, there's a notch in the cross piece for the battle sight. With the as-designed front blade, the battle sight zero is 547 yards. The rifles were often fitted with a higher front blade to get a more practical zero for the battle sight.

[MileHi]

Good stuff.

[Farmer Dean]

We have an original 1911 that a friend of the family carried in France during the first World War.He gave it to me for safe keeping,he knew I would take good care of it.

[MileHi]

I was looking at the mini-30, but I’ve read some reviews which suggest it is not the most accurate.

That is the consensus. Besides, the mini chambers the AH\SKS round, no 800 yard round. Semi .308 rifles cost money and are relatively heavy. You can buy junk that skirts one of those two, but don't. M1A or high end AR-10 rifles come to mind for good equipment.

Me, I have a .308 tactical bolt rifle. And two ARs to defend the bolt rifles position. Either you need one well placed shot, or you need a squad...

[B4Ranch]

There’s a kid up the road from me who kills coffee cans with his M-1 and handloads at that distance. Of course, he can read wind changes before they happen.

[Shooter 2.5]

Until the tank came along and it was back to open ground warfare.

[Jack Hammer]

This thread opens up the issue of the Mauser k98; it’s a great rifle and a great design, but there are so many variations that it’s difficult to sift through them all with an eye to acquisition of an example. I’d be interested to hear from anyone who has one, and what you think of it? Also, which variation is it and where did you get it?

The whole question came up as the result of the advertisement perpetually in National Rifleman touting the virtues of an outfit calling itself “Mitchell’s Mausers.” It seems that some feel they’re not on the up-and-up, and that their rifles have been refurbished, reblued, and even restamped to make them appear something they’re not. I recently saw one of their rifles in a shop, however, where someone had placed it for resale, and it was absoutely gorgeous. Another company offering the rifle is called Samco, and they seem to be a little more straightforward.

Anyone like to weight in on this topic?

[300winmag]

Semi .308 rifles cost money and are relatively heavy.

I agree about the "cost money" part, but the Springfield M1A SOCOM-16 is fairly light, and very handy and quite pleasant to shoot (with ear protection). With a 1x electronic sight, it's a plinker on steroids. I have complete confidence in mine up to 300 yards. After that, my eyes need help before my M1A does. The rifle is willing, but the eyes are weak.

Effective fire on a point target at 800 yards, as opposed to mass volley fire, requires a serious rifle with a serious scope, and some serious practice. You can probably save $400 by going with a quality bolt action, rather than semiauto, but you still need the same scope, and the same amount of practice.

Shots at 800 yards, outside of mountains and open plains, are few and far between. It's the "big leagues" of rifle shooting, and you have to gear up for it appropriately.

[Shooter 2.5]

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Your post is a little confusing. Do you want a rifle that fires 7.62 X 39 or 7.62 X 51[.308]?

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