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Ancient genetic imprint unites the tribes of India
New Scientist ^ | September 11, 2008 | Anil Ananthaswamy

Posted on 09/21/2008 8:11:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv
I believe that Sumerian was an agglutinative language. So far as I know no one has established a relationship between Sumerian and any other known language (of course it may have had relatives that went extinct without ever being recorded in writing).

Some people think that Elamite may have been related to the Dravidian languages, but as far as I know that hasn't been proven.

21 posted on 09/22/2008 7:09:40 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Perhaps the Munda-speakers ancestors were there first, and the Dravidian-speakers’ ancestors had Dravidian imposed on them by a small number of conquerors. Compare how Spanish became the first language of large parts of Latin America where the people are mostly descended from the pre-1492 population, or how Haitians speak a French creole despite being almost entirely of African ancestry—DNA testing would no doubt show much closer affinities to people speaking unrelated languages in West Africa than to people in France.


22 posted on 09/22/2008 7:14:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv
Yes, LOL! Fossilized excrement seem a good description for some of the stuff being sold this election cycle. :-))
23 posted on 09/23/2008 9:13:47 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Good point. That may well be what happened.
24 posted on 09/23/2008 9:14:33 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Verginius Rufus

That does ring a bell — seems like some folks have thought they discern agglutinative structure in the very fragmentary surviving Elamite inscriptions. And you’re right, Sumerian was agglutinative. The Sumerians (who called themselves “the black headed people”, if memory serves) gave us cuneiform (possibly as a consequence of the agglutinative nature of their language) which really caught on as a medium for international relations in ancient times, peaking long centuries after the Sumerian and the Sumerians had vanished. There are no known relatives, living or dead, although it one looks around, there are some fringe thinkers who claim otherwise. :’)


25 posted on 09/23/2008 5:59:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Elamite is one of the three languages of the Behistun inscription which gives Darius' version of how he became king--that's a fairly substantial text. I don't know how many other Elamite texts are of some length.

Elamite speakers are mentioned in Acts 2:9, and a king of Elam figures in Genesis 14, but neither passage says anything about the structure of the language. Missed opportunities!

26 posted on 09/23/2008 7:40:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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