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Radio Free NJ - Buying a First Shotgun ^ | T. Costell

Posted on 09/10/2008 3:49:23 AM PDT by sig226

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To: JewishRighter; PowderMonkey
I like the Mossberg 590 because it's long, sharp, and pointy. :)


101 posted on 09/10/2008 12:59:37 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: Gilbo_3; hiredhand; archy

Five years ago we had a similar type break-in our neighborhood where 8 or 12 houses were hit. If your home had double front doors which are easier to kick open, you were a target. Perhaps the larger alarm company sign on the house kept them away from us but I added a 2K security/storm door to the front entrance anyway.

I found out later that all four were captured while comitting a break-in in Reno, and yeah, all of the buggers were illegal aliens. One was armed. 40 some break-ins in all. That would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 40K in damages alone for the insurance companies to cough up.


102 posted on 09/10/2008 1:38:19 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: archy
I have one of the first generation Crusiers with the full length magazine tube.

I only play with it with bird shot, but keep it loaded 00. I do note that in a high adrenalin situation, I might never know that my left hand was being torn apart by the pistol grip until well after the fact.

It is the same as when shooting that big buck you've been after for a while...you never feel the recoil or note the noise of the firing.

It is the same when I fire my pistol or rifle at a nice feral hog. There is no recoil and my hearing is closed off to the blast. The muzzle flash of the full house 44 reloads paints me a picture of the target for a follow up shot(s).

Adrenalin will be your friend.

103 posted on 09/10/2008 1:40:18 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: sig226

ping 102


104 posted on 09/10/2008 1:40:36 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: sig226

If you get close enough to use the pointy thingamajig, you are toooo close!


105 posted on 09/10/2008 1:42:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: Gilbo_3
Above all...BE A GOOD BOYSCOUT! :-)
106 posted on 09/10/2008 1:53:01 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: archy

Did you have anything to do with the design of that cannon?


107 posted on 09/10/2008 2:04:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: sig226

Now yer talkin’! That’s one hot example of salacious gun photography. Bravo.


108 posted on 09/10/2008 2:16:29 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: sig226


109 posted on 09/10/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: B4Ranch
B4Ranch to archy Did you have anything to do with the design of that cannon?

No. I was working on somethin along the same lines of the cartridge, though.

110 posted on 09/10/2008 4:45:32 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: sig226

My Mossberg 500 is a solid workhorse...weather or sand and grit do not faze it, it has never failed to reach out and get what it’s pointed at.


111 posted on 09/10/2008 5:22:41 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: tcostell

Thanks for not getting upset with my abrupt attitude. I really don’t like that “chambering the round” stuff. It really irks me for some reason.

I can give you a tip on choices of shotguns. I have a couple Mossbergs which I like because I can modify the elevator and get more rounds in it by using the Aguila MiniShells. Instead of five and one, I think it’s more like eight and one. The extended mag on the longer shotgun is, I think, fourteen. The buckshot shells work. The field grade shot doesn’t because the rims disappear after firing and the extractor doesn’t grab for some reason.
If you like having a full pistol grip on the rear stock, I would go with the Remington 870. I can’t reach the safety on the tang with the Mossberg. I have let go of the pistol grip and then disconnect the safety.


112 posted on 09/10/2008 6:33:51 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: P8riot
H&K Benelli M1 Super 90’s

My favorite flavor and first to grab at home as well...

I keep a sliding scale of rounds loaded: 4buck > 00buck > 000buck > BRI sabot...

113 posted on 09/10/2008 6:37:04 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Pray for our side!)
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To: mbynack

“I don’t need a thousand dollar shotgun. I need to know how to run the gun I’ve got.”

That’s the most important thing that can be said of any class of firearms.


114 posted on 09/10/2008 6:47:22 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: wolfcreek
If you buy a shotgun that already has a short barrel, it’s legal in Texas.

You just can’t do it yourself.

I've never read or heard that until now. Would you have a reference to that where I can look it up and read about it?

115 posted on 09/10/2008 6:47:43 PM PDT by Marauder (Damn all Bolsheviks to hell.)
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To: Chode

Is that the new one of the old one with the magic disconnector?


116 posted on 09/10/2008 6:49:13 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: sig226
the smaller the bore the smaller the pattern. So with a 20 gauge gun it’s harder to hit what you’re shooting than with a 12 gauge,

The author doesn't seem familiar with chokes on shotguns.

117 posted on 09/10/2008 6:54:37 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

There are plenty of anecdotes about it; you can judge their truthfulness perhaps better than I can. The argument against working the action makes an important point - the gun is not ready when you pick it up. But it omits two important points. First, the homeowner may not be able to keep the gun with a round chambered. Children or pets might make this impractical.

Second, at some point you are going to have to announce yourself. Even if you close the bedroom door and call 911, you’re making noise. In a quiet house, an intruder can hear you. You may also choose to announce yourself.

“I have a gun. Get out. I’m calling the police.”

The predator mentioned elsewhere in this thread knows that it takes time for the police to arrive, and might not believe the claim about the gun.

“Get out.” Click - clack.

This tells you everything you need to know.

I keep the 590 loaded all the time, but I live alone. If not, I wouldn’t leave it loaded, even if I was married for ten years and my wife was an expert shooter.


118 posted on 09/10/2008 6:58:46 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: sig226
yup... hold the trigger and pump fire
119 posted on 09/10/2008 7:02:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: XeniaSt

It was written for a beginner, and I’ve learned from experience that trying to explain the concept of pattern density to a beginner is largely a waste of time. You’re right, but there’s time for the shooter to learn the ins and outs of chokes and barrel lengths later.


120 posted on 09/10/2008 7:04:52 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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