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FR Gun Club: The Cornered Cat
The Cornered Cat ^ | Kathy Jackson

Posted on 08/11/2008 3:37:56 AM PDT by sig226

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To: Daffynition
The long and short of it is, I firmly believe the laser was what stopped him in his tracks

How could he see it?

61 posted on 08/11/2008 10:26:35 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: pyrless

Thanks pyrless. Actually I come from a shooting family and was the ‘last’ one to get my CCW. LOL

I am glad to add, with all the training, practice and courses you take for defense, I think unless you’re an experienced military or seasoned LEO, it always helps to have an edge. But, at least for me, in the remote recesses of your brain, you have a teeny tiny doubt, that if it comes down to it, will you have what it takes to use your weapon?

I’m glad I passed that hurdle because now, I have absolutely no doubt. And this comes from a lot a personal searching and introspection because I have the deepest respect for all life.

But even having a red dot is no substitute for lots and lots of practice.


62 posted on 08/11/2008 10:31:55 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become the more you can hear.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Mr. Legs didn't like it much, he wants something slimmer. He's looking at the Bersa Thunder.

Please have him look at the Kel-Tec PF-9. I'm with you on the Glock, but frankly, the Kel-Tec is one amazing 9mm.

63 posted on 08/11/2008 10:35:29 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

“Please have him look at the Kel-Tec PF-9. I’m with you on the Glock, but frankly, the Kel-Tec is one amazing 9mm.”

Yes! Kel-Tec makes several very small and very inexpensive options. I came thiiiiis close to buying one before splurging on my G36.

Be careful of using the high power +P ammo, though, they are a bit less sturdy than others. They used to have a bad rep, but I hear they’ve corrected that on those manufactured since a couple of years ago.


64 posted on 08/11/2008 10:45:14 AM PDT by pyrless (I carry a gun, 'cause a cop is too heavy)
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To: sig226

I have a question for the ladies commenting on this thread:

Do you have trouble racking the slide on a semi-auto?

The reason I ask is that my wife can’t rack any of my semi-autos. Not compact models or full-size 1911 models. If she were to use a semi-auto it would need to be one of the Beretta .32 caliber tilt-up barrels.

I got her a snubby Taurus Titanium light-weight 357 7-shot revolvers and she likes it better than any of my other guns. I got her the 38 spl Speer Gold Dota for it. The 357 recoil is pretty stout in such a light revolver.


65 posted on 08/11/2008 11:09:05 AM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: pyrless

Well, he wants it ‘just for fun’, so he has something to play with while we’re at the range. Once I get him fully converted I imagine he’ll want something in a bigger caliber.


66 posted on 08/11/2008 11:09:31 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: papertyger

He got to shoot my Mom’s Kel-Tec P3AT; It bit him pretty badly on the webbing between his thumb & index and he wasn’t too sure about the super long trigger pull; is the PF9 about the same?


67 posted on 08/11/2008 11:11:55 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: XeniaSt

Ooh, nice. I could use one of those magazines...


68 posted on 08/11/2008 11:13:44 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: pyrless
I came thiiiiis close to buying one before splurging on my G36.

You're tougher than me, lady. Those things BITE! That's why I carry the double stack 30, rather than the single stack 36.

I picked up the Kel-Tec for those times when I just couldn't conceal something that thick.

Once I had it, I was shocked by its accuracy and ergonomics, though I knew about its reliability, or I wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

69 posted on 08/11/2008 11:26:11 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: LongElegantLegs

Sorry I can’t help. I’ve never even held a P3, let alone fired it. I suspect they are probably similar, though.


70 posted on 08/11/2008 11:30:46 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: China Clipper

“I prefer the venerable Sig Sauer P232 with Hogue grips!”

You and me both...I have several Sigs...they’re hard to beat.


71 posted on 08/11/2008 1:05:15 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: verga
I think this is the biggest problem for everyone. During the summer I wear a shorts and a tee. During the rest of the year for work I need to wear a shirt and tie.

Thunderwear or other elastic *belly bands work pretty well with shorts, and conceals nicely under a T-shirt or golf shirt.

No, you do NOT have to unzip your shorts to get to your handgun. And cops have been known to add in wallets, extra magazines, badges and all sorts of other handy novelties in them.

I don't care much for ankle rigs for a handgun either. But they're a great place to carry an extra magazine or two.

72 posted on 08/11/2008 2:51:33 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: pyrless; LongElegantLegs; GailA
“He’s looking at the Bersa Thunder.”

Just looked it up. It has some very favorable reviews; compact, great price, etc. Looks like it’s a double-action also, which means no safety to fumble off. A nice choice if you aren’t interested in moving up to a .45 like the G36.

Oh, Gail....

73 posted on 08/11/2008 2:53:08 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: MtnClimber

I see a lot of women who have trouble operating the slide on modern semi autos. I see four reasons for this.

Unfamiliarity
Neato firearm coatings
Streamlined slides (cool appearance goes along with the neato firearm coatings)
Compact designs

It isn’t that women can’t work a slide, they often do not know how. Give a stuck jar to a woman and watch her smile because you couldn’t open it.

I read that article and found it better than the method I’ve been teaching. I’ll give it a try next weekend and encourage see if it is easier than the method I learned from some gun book. It certainly emphasizes safe muzzle direction.


74 posted on 08/11/2008 4:01:02 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Joe Brower

Thanks for the ping!


75 posted on 08/11/2008 10:37:52 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: sig226; MtnClimber
I see a lot of women who have trouble operating the slide on modern semi autos. I see four reasons for this.

Unfamiliarity

Neato firearm coatings

Streamlined slides (cool appearance goes along with the neato firearm coatings)

Compact designs

What I have observed is that most women do not have sufficient
upper body strength to rack a slide either cross body or in line.

This is especially true in small caliber blowback autos.


76 posted on 08/12/2008 9:32:23 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: MtnClimber

When I bought my semi-auto new, it was a trick to rack. After some use, between breaking it in and my left hand getting stronger, it got easier. I just tried it out of curiosity because I have some issues with my left hand and was still able to rack without any problem.

In general, though, I do have some problems with racking different guns. My hands aren’t nearly as strong as men’s.


77 posted on 08/12/2008 2:28:07 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Ladysmith

My wife isn’t able to rack the slide on any of my semi-autos. Not compacts or full sized. Finally settled on a light-weight .357 mag revolver, but only load it with 38 spl. I did try it with full .357 loads and it was a handful for me.


78 posted on 08/12/2008 6:07:28 PM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: MtnClimber

Same here. a few rounds of .357’s wore my wrist right out. I’m figuring (praying) that if I should have to use them for self-defense, the adrenalin will get me through it. But for target practice, 38’s all the way.

My Ruger .22 slides a little nicer than the 9mm. However, it’s one you grip from the back, typically with only your first finger and thumb. So you still need a decent grip. Any exercises your wife can do to strengthen her hands?


79 posted on 08/12/2008 7:28:13 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: Ladysmith
Here's a good technique to 'rack' a semi-auto.

Place the firearm in your strong hand pointed in a safe direction.

Grasp the slide with your weak hand firmly.

Now, here's the important part. DO NOT attempt to pull the slide back at all. Rather, PUSH the firearm forward with your strong hand while holding the slide in place with your weak hand. Put your hips into if you need to.

Once the slide has travelled fully to the rear, release it.

I think if you'll try this method of charging a semi-auto, you'll find that it works well.

Practice with an empty firearm until you can do it from muscle memory.

I hope you find my advice useful.

Best.

L

80 posted on 08/12/2008 7:52:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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