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Advice needed for handgun purchase - home defense, pumpkin blasting
8/04/2008 | GOP_Party_Animal

Posted on 08/04/2008 9:04:16 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal

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To: Turbopilot

Yoiks!

I just looked at it more carefully, and realized that it was a parody. When I first glanced without reading, I missed the point.

Sens of humor intact, but I’ve been devoting far too little time and energy at FR lately, apparently.


41 posted on 08/04/2008 10:45:08 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Go to an indoor range and spend some money renting handguns and shooting them.

Fact: The neatest homicide I ever worked in my policing days was done by a wife with a little bitty .25 auto at 22 feet with one shot to the heart. Man sat down right there, told his son that he was a dead man and then proceeded to become one before we got there.

The point is: You can kill someone with a BB gun if you know what you are doing. There are lots of people occupying space in cemeteries with holes in them made by .38 special and smaller rounds. First, learn to shoot!

I learned on a Smith & Wesson Model 10 heavy barrel. Cheap to shoot and cheap to reload and they conceal pretty well. And it is easy for anybody to shoot.

Last lesson: learn to shoot at 8 inch pie plates. Then practice on saucer sized targets out to 7 yards. Become consistent. Learn each move slowly. Don’t try to speed up until you are not missing any shots at slow speed. Practice often.

After all that, I have two weapons of choice: 1911 .45 auto or a Smith & Wesson Model 10.

Get a copy of Bill Jordan’s book “No Second Place Winner” and anything you can get by Jeff Cooper.


42 posted on 08/04/2008 10:48:26 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: Old Mountain man

Why did the guy’s wife shoot him?


43 posted on 08/04/2008 10:58:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Old Mountain man
Thanks - interesting stuff. I was out hunting with a rancher friend of mine by one of his junk piles. Resting near the pile was a steer's skull with a peculiar hole between the eyes that would have measured 0.22 inches. 1,500 lb animal on the hoof.

Looks like step #1 is to find a range.

44 posted on 08/04/2008 10:59:50 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
For your first two handguns, you won't go wrong with the .357/.38 family. For example, you could get a .357 with a 4" barrel for the nightstand, and an alloy-frame .38 for CCW use. (You can shoot .38 specials in the .357 for practice or even for self-defense. A recommended load for this is the Speer 135gr .38+P.)

Check out this forum on the Smith model 642/442:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=138658

45 posted on 08/04/2008 11:00:34 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Pumpkin blasting? Nothing beats a 14” 12-gauge at close range. Really. At the peak moment, time stops as you perceive yourself within a 12’ sphere of orange haze.


46 posted on 08/04/2008 11:06:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Beelzebubba

This should cover you for all situations. (Johnny Seven OMA - One Man Army)
Grenade Launcher, Anti-Tank Rocket Launcher, Anti Bunker Missile Launcher, Armor Piercing Shell, Slide Bolt Action Machine Gun, Detachable Pistol which fires shells. Detachable Stock & built in Bi-Pod.
47 posted on 08/04/2008 11:08:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

My wife loves her model 36 Smith and Wesson. It fits very nicely in her tiny hand, although I had it upgraded to Pacmar(sp) grips. For the house I suggest a 12 guage. For yourself maybe a Walther PPKs


48 posted on 08/04/2008 11:10:04 AM PDT by halfright (mohammed was a P E D O P H I L E)
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To: Vor Lady

Check out #24!


49 posted on 08/04/2008 11:23:29 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: HungarianGypsy
I bought my wife a .38 snubby but even the lightest loads were painful. She now has a Model 34 Smith .22 revolver that has no safety. She can fire 4 of the 6 rounds in three seconds, without flinching.
50 posted on 08/04/2008 11:31:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

My daughter and I just went through this process. I’d suggest you look at a Smith & Wesson M&P for your wife. You can get either a 9mm and 40 cal in both full size or compact versions. The M&Ps all come with 3 different sized back straps, so she can customize the “fit” to her hand. The compact will have more “kick” than the full size, but it’s smaller. Of course, the 9mm will “kick” less than the 40 cal. in either the full size or the compact. Regardless which version you get, it’s a good first gun, very reliable, and totally point-and-shoot. My daughter owns a 40 cal compact and loves it.


51 posted on 08/04/2008 11:50:58 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“Mostly because it’s easy to get such a permit in ND now. May not always be that way.”

If you said you wanted a carry weapon and a home weapon, I could see it, but why put yourself on the fed’s carry list when you don’t even want to carry? When the time comes to grab guns (and it is coming), the feds will come after you first.


52 posted on 08/04/2008 12:00:55 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: wastedyears

As I recall (bear in mind it was over thirty years ago), it was over booze. I think he drank her share.


53 posted on 08/04/2008 12:56:52 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

There you go!


54 posted on 08/04/2008 12:57:45 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: Old Mountain man

Jeez

Makes me worried even more so to date.


55 posted on 08/04/2008 1:31:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears

Don’t wait around. Start looking today.


56 posted on 08/04/2008 1:53:30 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
In answer to all of your questions,

I would recommend training from an NRA Certified Instructor

in


NRA training for women
Refuse to be a victim
Basic pistol
Personal protection in the home
and the newly released
Personal protection outside the home


57 posted on 08/04/2008 2:03:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Old Mountain man

I don’t want to rush into marriage. I want to do it right.


58 posted on 08/04/2008 2:32:35 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

bttt


59 posted on 08/04/2008 2:46:13 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: wastedyears

Remember one or two things and you will be alright:

1. As I recall, FBI stats indicated that the average gunfight lasted less than 6 shots.

2. If you learn and practice good habits and you get into a scrape, your training will take over.

3. Remember to keep moving. Moving targets are hard to hit and you will be a better shot than the average thug. If you can learn to shoot at and hit moving targets, even better.

4. Evaluate before and after each shot.

5. There is no substitute for practice.


60 posted on 08/04/2008 2:51:38 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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