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Kos’s Obama Birth Certificate Fake? [Hawaii Says It Did not Use "African" on Certs]
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Posted on 06/21/2008 1:12:16 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Nonsense. When Obama was born he was completely stark nekkid. Besides, his mother Stanley was a well known Atheist.
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posted on
06/21/2008 3:56:22 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
To: surely_you_jest
Your polite, liberal society clearly used the expression "Nigra" as I distinctly recalled. Being a Yankee sort of guy it stood out in my mind.
Hard to believe Souvrnrs thought they could fool people.
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posted on
06/21/2008 3:59:10 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
To: muawiyah
My post wasn’t as precisely worded, or punctuated, as it might have been. I meant polite, as well as liberal, society. And I was referring to the written form of the word. You are referring to the spoken form in the Northern part of the state, where they spoke “Southern”. I grew up in Miami, which in those days was, essentially, New York with palm trees.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:04:01 PM PDT
by
surely_you_jest
(I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
To: gusopol3
I grew up in a small, southern college town in the fifties-early sixties - we used "colored".
I was surprised when I saw "B" on the 1910 NC census.
To: Sadie5
“Colored” was used in the South and the midwest. Where I grew up in Jersey, it was “Negro”. We’re talking the 1950s here.
To: TribalPrincess2U
Mine from 1958 in Calif. is black and white with my foot print on the back. This is just a modern certification of what the original is supposed to state.
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Revision date on the form is November 2001.
It's a transcription,
Therefore, error or intentional change can't be ruled out.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:16:47 PM PDT
by
norton
To: gusopol3
“Black power” was a deliberate appropriation of a formerly offensive word. Probably it sounded stronger.
It’s not unprecedented. For instance, the Quakers were named so derisively, by people making fun of them for going in fear and trembling of the Lord, but they took it as an acceptable name for themselves. And there are similar instances of insults being adopted and converted by those insulted.
The rules can be complicated—for instance, blacks currently can use the “n” word, but white people can’t. There has seldom been a time when people have been more conscious of the political meaning of words and word manipulation.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:20:39 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: surely_you_jest
I’ve heard other words that were in use in Mami.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:27:20 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
To: FReepaholic
Well, the Hawaiian law stiplulates that:
If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least FIVE of which had to be after the age of 16. Per findlaw.com, the law you are referring to is federal law, and applies ONLY to children born OUTSIDE the United States
If he was born in Hawaii, then he's a natural born US citizen regardless of the citizenship of his parents
This would only be relevant if he was actually born outside the US (as has been suspected by some, but no evidence has been shown to support that)
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:28:28 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
To: ncpatriot
In many original compilations of census forms from the 1800s you find the term “not white” or “non white” which means whatever you want it to mean.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:30:43 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
To: Terry Mross
However, if some clerk who was filling out the birth certificate asked Obamas mother where the father was from and she replied Africa, its possible this is what was written down. Seems more likely that she would have replied Kenyan, and the clerk would have written that down as an indication that the father was a foreign national
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:32:22 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
To: processing please hold; pissant
Many of us on FR doubted it was real. Too many told us to shut up about it.Yep. Sounds exactly like the Larry Sinclair story.
To: Cicero
very true, even in Acts, “Christian” is first used in Antioch by those outside the faith. But, unless I’m mistaken the old Sunday School song, later picked up by some ‘60’s balladeer ( I can hear him singing but can’t remember who he is) , “Jesus loves the little children...red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight,” predates the 60’s.
To: Lancey Howard; pissant; freespirited
I want you to read this page from the Hawaii Department of Health Vital records site....
Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) on file with the Department of Health may be amended (i.e., changes, corrections, additions, deletions, or substitutions) upon submission of the required documentation.Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amendment?
Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.
Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the events occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.
In other words the state of Hawaii is perfectly willing to issue amended Birth Certificates to persons born in another country.
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posted on
06/21/2008 4:42:23 PM PDT
by
usmcobra
(I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
To: freespirited
Why doesn’t the State of Hawaii just tell us it’s a fake?
To: Brilliant
I can understand not wanting to release vital statistics about a person, but it must be in Hawaii's own interest to expose a forgery being passed around as an authentic Hawaiian document.
-PJ
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posted on
06/21/2008 5:10:10 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: Political Junkie Too
To further my thought, Hawaii should owe no obligation to a person named on a forged document. It is Hawaii's responsibility as a government to expose a fraud done in their name.
-PJ
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posted on
06/21/2008 5:11:42 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: muawiyah
Ive heard other words that were in use in Mami.I didn't. Perhaps I led a protected life.
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posted on
06/21/2008 5:15:13 PM PDT
by
surely_you_jest
(I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
To: surely_you_jest
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posted on
06/21/2008 5:22:18 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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