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Pictured: Lancaster bomber in dramatic flypast to mark 65th anniversary of Dambusters raid (U.K.)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | May 16, 2008

Posted on 05/16/2008 2:03:23 PM PDT by Stoat

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To: Stoat

Thank you so much for the Post. My Dad fought in WWII, as did my Mom’s brother, they are all gone now, however I love the information about WWII. I grew up on it. And it brings tears to my eyes, remembering my Dad in his uniform, how handsome he was. My Dad was in the Army Air Corp. 25 years.


41 posted on 05/16/2008 6:06:45 PM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee) ( Born in the South and raised in a G_D centered home)
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To: Stoat
No story about the Dambusters would be complete without this interesting postscript. Our Manhatten Project ran into a slight problem. It seems that we had a bomber big enough to carry the A bomb but no bomb rack in the US inventory had the capacity for the bombs. They weighed too much.

One of our engineers remembered that the British had bomb racks that could take the the weight. We borrowed some of these racks that were developed exclusively for the Dambusters. Had the British not built them, it could have delayed the A bomb drops as we would have needed to develop our own racks from scratch.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 6:19:54 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Stoat

Thank You Stoat...well done.


43 posted on 05/16/2008 6:57:48 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Professional Engineer

I think I see a family resemblance on that face...;)


44 posted on 05/16/2008 7:01:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: sasportas

Lancaster
Speed: 287 mph
Range: 1,660 miles
Ceiling: 24,500 ft.
Bomb Load: 14,000 lb

B-17G
Speed: 287 mph
Range: 2,000 miles
Ceiling: 35,800
Bomb Load: 17,600 lb

The German Ural Bomber was canceled, and the Amerika Bomber didn’t make it past prototype.

HE-177
Speed: 350 mph
Range: 960 miles
Ceiling: 30,800
Standard Load: 15,800 lbs

Note: comparisons not exact.

The advantage of the B-17 over the Lancaster was altitude and range, both of which made daylight bombing possible.


45 posted on 05/16/2008 7:09:27 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

No doubt, the B-29, arriving late in the war, compared to these you listed had improved stats.


46 posted on 05/16/2008 8:16:51 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

I’ll try to compare apples to apples this time from Boeing:

The biggest difference was in range and bombload; the 17-G actually had a higher ceiling.

B-29
Cruising speed - 220 mph
Top speed - 365 mph
Ceiling - 31,850 feet
Bomb load - 20,000-pounds
Range - 5,830 miles

B-17
Cruising speed - 150 mph
Top speed - 287 mph
Ceiling - 35,600 feet
Bomb load - 9,600-pounds
Range - 3,750 miles


47 posted on 05/16/2008 8:27:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

ping


48 posted on 05/17/2008 12:22:05 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: skeeter

One, Joe McCarthy (no, not that one lol).


49 posted on 05/19/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: unkus

Just curious...

How well known in America is:

a—the actual raid itself?
b—the classic 1955 film with Richard Todd?


50 posted on 05/19/2008 2:50:15 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Stoat

Nice pic and comments. However for others it is NOT the only flying Lancaster in the world. Check out the the Mynarski Lancaster at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton Ontario. Named to honour P/O Andrew Mynarski VC.
www.warplane.com. It flies regularly and for a hefty donation you can get a ride in it.
Newf>


51 posted on 05/21/2008 12:11:54 PM PDT by newf
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To: the scotsman

I love that movie. I understand a remake is in the works, though (sadly).


52 posted on 05/21/2008 12:15:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

Peter Jackson directing, Stephen Fry writing.

As a Kiwi, Jackson says the new version will be just as British as the original.


53 posted on 05/21/2008 5:30:39 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Oatka

Thank you so very much for your excellent background on this story, it’s sincerely appreciated. I’ve read your post over perhaps five or more times because I’ve just been rather awestruck not only by the genius of the planning, design and execution of the raid but in the tremendous bravery of the people involved.....as you say, in a great many ways it’s emblematic of a considerably different age than the one we live in now. There are many occasions when I wish that I had a time machine.....

Thank you again for the great post, and best wishes to you and yours.


54 posted on 05/21/2008 11:12:41 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Great Article and Pix.

Last Friday I took a ride in a T-6D. Even got to take the controls for a little while. Did a barrel-roll and a loop during the half hour flight. (See AmericanWarbird.com) It was a late-arriving Christmas/Birthday present from mrsdd


55 posted on 05/22/2008 12:14:56 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: the scotsman

That’s a formidable team! I can’t wait to see it. But generally I take a dim view of remakes; hopefully this will be the exception.

I wonder what they’ll name the dog in the remake? Heh heh.


56 posted on 05/22/2008 6:31:31 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Diver Dave

Lucky you!!!! Wow.


57 posted on 05/22/2008 10:04:41 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Constitution Day

LOL

Trigger, I gather.


58 posted on 05/22/2008 11:49:12 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Diver Dave

What a spectacular gift, and what a great opportunity!

You are truly Blessed to have such great affection bestowed upon you :-)


59 posted on 05/23/2008 6:23:43 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
A masterful stroke of engineering ~ carried out by courageous airmen!


60 posted on 01/07/2009 1:10:18 PM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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