And your evidence is -- what?
All those nights Lincoln spent playing chess with you and the sleepless guy?
Seriously, swattie, what the heck is the matter with you?
Were you dropped on your head or something?
Posted on 03/28/2008 12:15:10 PM PDT by cowboyway
the FACT is that DAMNyankee BIGOTS/haters do not WANT to accept that their "plaster, secular (but clay-footed) saint abe, the DISHONEST" was NOTHING more/less than a HATER/BIGOT/cheap,scheming politician, not dissimilar to "wee willie klintoon".
we all note that your posts have a SINGULAR lack of FACTS; otoh, nobody is surprised that a DY lies.
it's the nature of a DY to LIE, just as it is the nature of a SNAKE to SLITHER.
free dixie,sw
don't you get tired of being thought a FOOL & a "retard" by most people here???
free dixie,sw
the FACT is that "judy" (our local "special needs" teacher) believes you are "mentally challenged" (that used to be called "mentally retarded" in less PC times. otoh, based solely on the posts of the DUMB-bunnies of "the DY coven", you are NOT alone in being "mentally challenged".)
laughing AT the "useful idiots"/fools/BIGOTS of "the DAMNyankee coven".
free dixie,sw
otoh, BOTH were just as DISHONEST & AMORAL as men/POTUS. BOTH would have passed out "White House official recipes" for cooking people, if they thought 1% of the voters wanted to engage in cannibals.
NEITHER lincoln or klintoon were deserving of the public trust. period. end of story.
otoh, "Mary Todd" was NUTS, so that may be 1 reason that "dishonest abe" was as he was.
free dixie,sw
fwiw, the SAME groups of northeastern financial/social/academic ELITES want to control our lives NOW. (that's ONE reason that many southrons still desire FREEDOM from the north.)
free dixie,sw
"We destroyed the village in order to save it."
in the case of "lincoln, the TYRANT", it was FREEDOM, rather than a hamlet that was DESTROYED.
free dixie,sw
And your evidence is -- what?
All those nights Lincoln spent playing chess with you and the sleepless guy?
Seriously, swattie, what the heck is the matter with you?
Were you dropped on your head or something?
He’s the head of the confederate nut jobs here.
Income tax. Do I need to keep going?
You don't have a clue, do you.
Let's use the extreme case and maybe you'll get it. Let's say the lawmakers got together tomorrow (Sunday is appropriate for this example) and drew up legislation that stated "From this day forward, all people living in these United States will be Moral." You can make morality the law of the land, but you can't make people moral.
Your long list of links shows, accurately, that northern states and peoples had a long history of being involved in slavery and slave trading, and that many of them by the time of the war tried to ignore this and demonize southerners. So what? Have I ever said otherwise?
Did you bother to read the entire site? If so, you would know that the north was much more than 'involved in slavery' and that there was a systematic rewriting of northern history concerning slavery. So, is it such a stretch to think that the north might just rewrite the history books concerning the War of Northern Aggression?
Yes, the north is much more than 'involved in slavery' (even those words try to downplay it). They are responsible for it.
It's only after 'you people' come to grips with your falsified past that you will be able to have honest and open debate.
I agree the War set a precedent for expanded federal power. However, most of these powers disappeared for most of the rest of the 19th century, with expansion beginning again in the very late century as a result of the Progressive movement. Your analogy also assumes that the Progressive movement, the New Deal and all the other expansions of federal power would not have occurred if Lincoln had not saved the Union. This is confusing sequence with causation.
The precedent, set by Lincoln, was the key that paved the way to the authoritarian oligarchy entrenched in DC today.
This does not mean that there might not be a considerably more tyrannical government in one or more of the multiple governments exercising authority over what is now the USA.
I'd bet that if the South and north had remained split that the north would have become a full fledged socialist/communist country and a red state/blue state map is all the proof you need.
This ain't nothing new. The 'Log Cabin Republicans' have thought so for quite some time.
I guess a man sleeping with another man for four years is normal up north..........
You should know, putz.
Just reread all the lies that you schmucks have written about the South and Southerners on these threads.
Unfortunately, it doesn't stop with you schmucks on these threads.....it's in your history books.
You schmucks want to live a lie, that's fine, but you won't force your lies on the South anymore.
The web has become a great liberator of yankee lies, from disHonest Abe to Hillary and Obama.
Before proceeding, let me remind you that he isn't known as 'disHonest Abe' for nothing. (Do you have a date for that quote?)
with the exception of course that I'm in favor of full legal and social equality.
Thats mighty white of you.............
Those who foresaw great turmoil and trouble if slavery were abolished have largely been proven correct.
Abolishment was inevitable.
The way it was done was unconscionable.
Needed to be repeated......
You must have been licking swattie’s backside - you’re sounding more & more like him every day...
Oh, I get it - It’s a southron thang. Well, y’all would be best to keep it to yourselves...;’}
Is that a threat?
You know, I’ve tried to be polite and engage you in civil discussion.
When you bring up an issue I’ve tried to address it with facts rather than rhetoric.
You seem to have a compulsion to engage in name-calling and ad hominem attacks, on historical figures as well as those who try to discuss issues with you. If southerners in the 1850s were anything like you I believe the North showed great restraint in how it responded to their provocations.
A couple of years ago, before I’d engaged in some of these extended debates, I had a great deal of sympathy for the southern cause. I believed then, and still do to some extent, that historical revisionism was attempting to demonize the South and all southerners for their past history. I still respect southern military history. No group of men ever fought with greater heroism and honor, regardless of what I think of the cause for which they fought.
A great deal of this sympathy has dissipated, largely because of abusive Confederate apologists like you and SW.
I hope you take great pride in driving away your most likely allies in the fight against the continuing attempts to demonize southern and Confederate history.
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