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Davis' bicentennial eclipsed by Lincoln
The Kentucky Kernel ^
| 3/28/08
| Jill Laster
Posted on 03/28/2008 12:15:10 PM PDT by cowboyway
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posted on
03/28/2008 12:15:10 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
To: stainlessbanner
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posted on
03/28/2008 12:17:08 PM PDT
by
kalee
(The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
To: cowboyway
"Of Lincoln's writings, most have read only the Gettysburg Address. Of Davis's writings, most have read nothing."Well Davis' writings weren't nearly as pithy or memorable.
He was a man of great physical courage and of deep personal sorrow who handled a doomed enterprise honorably. While many former Confederates sniped at him for administrative and military incompetence, history shows what an impossible situation he had been placed in.
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posted on
03/28/2008 12:30:58 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: cowboyway
What a goofy article.
I'm reading through it when along comes this:
Having heard of Kentucky's reputation for "being a little backward," integrated strategic communications senior James Davidson Jr. was not surprised about Davis' statue in the Capitol building.
So who (besides Davidson apparently) thinks Kentucky is "a little backward"? Is that codespeak for not sufficiently politically correct?
It was an awkward and bumbling mechanism but it accomplished what it set out to do, which is set up an excuse to bash and condemn the Jefferson Davis Monument.
Fortunately I doubt that groups like Davidson's will gain enough traction to accomplish their aims...
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posted on
03/28/2008 12:41:59 PM PDT
by
rockrr
(Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
To: rockrr
thinks Kentucky is "a little backward"? Is that codespeak for not sufficiently politically correct? Codespeak for 'redneck', 'hillbilly', 'ignert' and 'white'.
I'm so glad that BHO has opened up a race discussion in this country.
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posted on
03/28/2008 2:41:29 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: wideawake
While many former Confederates sniped at him for administrative and military incompetence, history shows what an impossible situation he had been placed in. One of the first things that he did as President was to for a Peace Commission to try to resolve the differences with the union, but, unfortunately, Lincoln preferred a more violent solution.
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posted on
03/28/2008 2:47:48 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: cowboyway
One of the first things that he did as President was to for a Peace Commission to try to resolve the differences with the unionGiven the paucity of the South's resources, he had no other choice.
but, unfortunately, Lincoln preferred a more violent solution.
No, he didn't at all.
However, the violent assault on US troops stationed at Fort Sumter gave him no other choice.
Davis' minions just didn't take his Peace Commission as seriously as he did.
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posted on
03/28/2008 3:27:37 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: cowboyway
One of the first things that he did as President was to for a Peace Commission to try to resolve the differences with the union, but, unfortunately, Lincoln preferred a more violent solution. He sent a group to deliver an ultimatum to Lincoln, you mean. Peace was not what he wanted, surrender was.
To: cowboyway
“One of the first things that he did as President was to for a Peace Commission to try to resolve the differences with the union, but, unfortunately, Lincoln preferred a more violent solution.”
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Davis’ political foes in South Carolina wouldn’t have tolerated it. He was reviled almost as much by his fellow Southern politicians as he was by Northern ones.
To: wideawake
No, he didn't at all. The truth speaks otherwise. The South didn't invade the north..............
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posted on
03/28/2008 6:40:10 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: Non-Sequitur
Peace was not what he wanted, surrender was. You mean Lincoln? I agree.
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posted on
03/28/2008 6:41:17 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: cowboyway
Davis, wasn’t he the vanquished leader of some states that held slaves. My hero!
To: kiriath_jearim
He was reviled almost as much by his fellow Southern politicians as he was by Northern ones. That's kinda hard to justify given that he was appointed then elected President of the Confederacy.
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posted on
03/28/2008 6:42:46 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: purpleraine
Davis, wasnt he the vanquished leader of some states that held slaves. My hero! Perhaps Prince is more down your alley..................
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posted on
03/28/2008 6:44:07 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Did I say that out loud?)
To: cowboyway
Prince, the one from the North?
To: kiriath_jearim
Davis political foes in South Carolina wouldnt have tolerated it. [a peace commission]
??? After they seceded, South Carolina sent their own delegation to President Buchanan offering to negotiate for forts, etc., and their share of the national debt. From correspondence to Buchanan from the South Carolina Commissioners, Dec 28, 1860:
Sir: -- We have the honor to transmit to you a copy of the full powers from the Convention of the people of South Carolina, under which we are "authorized and empowered to treat with the Government of the United States for the delivery of the forts, magazines, light-houses, and other real estate with their appurtenances, within the limits of South Carolina, and also for an apportionment for the public debt and for a division of all the property held by the Government of the United States, of which South Carolina was recently a member, and generally to negotiate as to all other measures proper to be made and adopted in the existing relation of the parties, and for the continuance of peace and amity between this Commonwealth and the Government at Washington."
To: wideawake
He was a man of great physical courage and of deep personal sorrow who handled a doomed enterprise honorably. While many former Confederates sniped at him for administrative and military incompetence, history shows what an impossible situation he had been placed in.
That's an amazing statement coming from you. He is the kind of man I would want representing me in Washington, if not Richmond. I like the fact that he would not compromise legislation. He insisted each bill be voted on as it was, with no deals in place.
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posted on
03/29/2008 4:32:17 AM PDT
by
smug
(smug for President; Your only real hope)
To: rustbucket
South Carolina sent their own delegation to President Buchanan offering to negotiate
Yes Sir, the south sent a few Peace delegations to Washington. The most they got was a basket with Champaign in it, accompanied by an insult. As the south would not invade the north the north would not have had a war without themselves being the initiator's of war.
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posted on
03/29/2008 4:39:45 AM PDT
by
smug
(smug for President; Your only real hope)
To: cowboyway
You mean Lincoln? I agree. You know, if you would actually read the instructions given to that so-called 'peace commission' we could discuss this. But so long as you rely solely on Southron fairy tales, it's pointless.
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