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I'm From the Government, I'm Here to Help (Unapologetic Vanity)
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Posted on 03/05/2008 7:58:52 AM PST by mnehring

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To: mommya
Then you aren't a victim, you are in control of your circumstances. Sure, you have to change what you do, but change will happen. When you start trying to have the government regulate change, you are in real trouble. If you think changing monetary policy will stop this change, be it inflation, devaluation, whatever, you are in trouble. Up until 1971, we allowed foreign banks the option of cashing currency in on gold. Even with just foreign banks working off the gold standard as a value basis for our dollar, it had inflated the cost so much and the demand increased so much, Nixon was forced to either take a loan against international gold supplies from foreign banks or take us completely off the gold standard (he chose the latter.) Thinking changing the monetary policy back to the gold standard (or any other standard) is the solution is a myth, it only continues the process of the government continuing to manipulate currency to try to stop change. (with gold it is far more volatile because it is a fixed asset currency that is much more prone to the whims of supply and demand.)

The real solution isn't changing monetary policy, it is for the government to stop the micromanagement in the first place. Yes, you will have inflation, you will also at times have deflation.

I think what a lot of people don't understand with Paul's proposal of moving to Austrian Economic Theory is that inflation, deflation, recessions, depressions are not eliminated, on the contrary, Austrian Economic Theory states very plainly that these changes naturally occur often because of the simple nature of supply and demand. (Keizer, Willem (1997). Austrian Economics in Debate.) It is a direct part of the Mises-Hayek business cycle theory.

It is not the solution people think it is, it is just the government continuing to play with the currency.

But to get back to the point, even this debate is moving us right back to the problem- is the government there to really fix our problems? Every generation believes exactly like you, that things are getting worse. Yet looking back, every generation has improved upon the last.

21 posted on 03/05/2008 10:54:54 AM PST by mnehring ("Ronald Reagan has made Jimmy Carter look like a conservative..."- Ron Paul)
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To: mnehrling

Well - we agree that the government should stay out of the way.

Austrian economics does recognize the business cycle and inflation due to supply/demand, but does not encourage the creation of more money at a whim like our current system does. I don’t think it micromanages anything in its pure form.

As for evey generation being better off than the one before it - depends on how you look at it. And - (if it’s true) it can’t last forever. Many signs are pointing towards this being the time when things stall (or worse.) We’ve been able to materially live better than prior generations because we’ve borrowed to do it. If you can’t afford what you’ve borrowed you’re not really any better off - and you may be worse off if you get yourself in too deep. Maybe we (not you or I of course) are just dumber than previous generations in thinking that we are better off.


22 posted on 03/05/2008 11:29:16 AM PST by mommya
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btt for edits


23 posted on 03/05/2008 5:12:33 PM PST by mnehring
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To: pupdog

Welcome back. Being a Christian libertarian, I agree with your post 100%, except for the use of “fri- ckin”. :-) I’m in PA also, and I still plan on voting for Ron. I have followed Ron’s career for decades and have more respect for him than any living politician. I don’t believe the idea of freedom is popular in this nation anymore; most people just want security... financial, military, social. I don’t know what it takes to change that.


24 posted on 03/06/2008 4:27:02 PM PST by LambSlave (If you have to ask permission, it's not a right...)
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To: All; AuntB

Our local paper decided to pick this up:

http://www.news-journal.com/search/content/news/opinion/stories/2008/03/07/03072008_letters.html


25 posted on 03/07/2008 5:44:17 PM PST by mnehring (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. - Ayn Rand)
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To: LambSlave

Alas, a slight bit of color in my language I don’t seem to be able to remove. Consider it spice. :-)

What will it take? Like I keep telling everyone here, I think President Obama will be a big step. And that’s for both sides. The right will (hopefully) realize that their obsession at supporting their holy war at all costs was not worth electing the most socialist major party candidate in US history. The left will (hopefully) see that he’s not the anti-war candidate they dreamed of, nor is he any less a puppet of big business. And people like me will remind them (on both sides) to their dying day of the opportunity they missed because they were so obsessed with their partisan worldview that they forced themselves to believe disgusting slanders about one of the most honest, principled individuals to ever run for the oval office.

America is hanging by a fraying thread anyway, so by then it will be far too late to solve it through electoral means. But hopefully the civics lesson will take hold enough to be part of the solution for whatever post-America future awaits us.


26 posted on 03/10/2008 2:45:39 PM PDT by pupdog
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btt


27 posted on 04/01/2008 1:17:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

bump to myself.


28 posted on 04/01/2008 2:00:45 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: mnehrling
Like it or not, we will have a moderate or liberal as our next President.

I think that says it better.

I like what you have to say, but you don't take it far enough.

29 posted on 04/01/2008 2:04:22 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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