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Tiger escapes cage in San Francisco Zoo, kills one
AP ^ | December 25, 2007

Posted on 12/25/2007 6:56:38 PM PST by Shermy

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To: Shermy

Life is not as pristine as we like to believe.

This is a reminder that, although zoos are wonderful, educational places, they do hold dangers.


121 posted on 12/26/2007 7:28:07 AM PST by bannie
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To: Shermy

Note to self, only go to zoo with Jim Corbett.


122 posted on 12/26/2007 7:29:40 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Onelifetogive
...attacked and killed a visitor....

Aha! They ARE amoung us.
http://thevisitors.info/intro.html
123 posted on 12/26/2007 7:33:50 AM PST by jrg
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To: buffyt
Tiger did what Tigers do! Shot him? SHAME ON THE HUMANS

And you're an idiot .... the tiger killed someone. You put it's life above another humans? Shame on you, you damned fool.

124 posted on 12/26/2007 7:38:09 AM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I believe the attack last December happened when the regular handler/trainer was on vacation.

One might suspect the same situation last night.

Sounds like the gay cops and the few straight SF cops have improved their marksmanship. There was a shootout in a bank in the last decade. The cops fired an incredible number of shots at the robbers and never hit a bad guy.


125 posted on 12/26/2007 7:41:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: giotto
I have to wonder why they didn’t put Tatiana down after last year’s assault. A human being is dead because of a zoo official’s poor judgment.

If we start killing tigers just for being dangerous, I think we can just declare them extinct.

Tragic circumstance, and of course it's a shame people were injured and at least one killed. I also, though, think it's a shame that the tiger was killed. The folks at the zoo ought to have had at the very ~least~ a tranquilizer gun, if not a rifle, to deal with such emergencies. I don't blame the cops for shooting her, she reportedly was still mauling a person and lunged to attack. But I do see it as a loss of a very rare and beautiful animal.

126 posted on 12/26/2007 7:41:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: kcvl

“Several officers shot it with handguns, Mannina said”

Good shooting.

Wouldn’t want to have to deal with a tiger with a handgun.

A real tragedy. I worked in a zoo and accidents can happen but something like this is beyond idiocy. And Tigers, as another posted noted, shouldn’t be kept in cages anyway. They should have walled, moated, outdoor enclosures.
And most zoo mammals aren’t really typical in their behavior towards humans. They loose all fear of them and thanks to idiots who taunt and tease them, often develope a veritable dislike for them. I remember idiots in the public when I worked there - like jerk guys who hold their kids over the edge of a croc pit for a “better look”


127 posted on 12/26/2007 7:44:49 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: BuffaloJack; Shermy

“I can’t believe that after the tiger killed one and maimed two others that officials would wait until morning to sweep the grounds and look for any other victims. Don’t they own flashlights? Someone severely injured could bleed out overnight.”

They probably couldn’t get an accurate head count of the tigers, and they didn’t know if one or more was still loose.

Reporters were apparently sent back to their vehicles when they arrived. Cops probably told their bosses, they weren’t paid enough to check for loose tigers.


128 posted on 12/26/2007 7:46:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: ZULU

I wonder how many rounds and what kind? Handguns against a 350lb tiger? One needs a 44mag but was either .357 or .40SW.


129 posted on 12/26/2007 7:49:07 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I have been in that zoo with my kids.

So have I... and I always carried a concealed .357 revolver under a long wool overcoat when I did go.


It’s a nice zoo.

I think it could be a lot better... I saw lots of deteriorating exhibits five years ago. The animals did not seem to be well cared for, especially the elephants.

If it is the tiger I am thinking about, it is not the Sumatran tiger in the cage on the far end or the Siberians, but a larger male yellow tiger without a placard on the cage in the middle of the row.

He was possibly a Bengal that looked about 400 to 500 lbs. He was constantly pacing and growling, he didn't seem happy at all... I did feel uneasy about him...

130 posted on 12/26/2007 7:56:58 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Shermy; FrPR; giotto
Sounds like the gay cops and the few straight SF cops have improved their marksmanship

There are simply not enough SWAT units out there. SF definitely needs a gay Zoo Patrol SWAT. Lavender-based camo, short shorts and the latest in knee pads, pimped bread truck for transport to match.

http://www.answers.com/topic/eddie-edwards?cat=entertainment

131 posted on 12/26/2007 7:59:31 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Round up the Dark Horses, boys. This herd of contenders ain't makin' it.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
KTVU Channel 2, Oakland's Fox channel, is about to carry a live press conference from the hospital.

KTVU is asying that this is the Siberian tiger, Tatiana, that was involved in the mauling of a vacation relief trainer a year ago.

132 posted on 12/26/2007 8:08:14 AM PST by RhoTheta ("Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil..." - Ps 23)
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To: giotto

I was there 5 years ago.

The tiger I was thinking about is not the Sumatran tiger in the cage on the far end of the lion house or the Siberians, but a larger male yellow tiger without a placard in the cage near the middle of the row.

He was possibly a Bengal that looked about 400 to 500 lbs. He was constantly pacing and growling, he didn’t seem happy at all... I did feel uneasy about him...


133 posted on 12/26/2007 8:10:52 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RhoTheta

see # 133...


134 posted on 12/26/2007 8:12:02 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: ZULU

I always carry a concealed .357 revolver under a long wool overcoat when I go to a zoo.

I always go when it is cold...


135 posted on 12/26/2007 8:14:01 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

One can only imagine what that Gay Swat Bread Truck would look like.


136 posted on 12/26/2007 8:26:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The grottos and moats at the SF Zoo have steep walls, and the moats are fairly wide. It is almost inconceivable to me that any of the tigers and lions could have leaped over that moat.

The big cat grottos back up to a building with cages inside where the public can go to view feedings. There are a series of gates between cages and between the cages and the grottos outside so that the animals can be moved around to facilitate cleaning, etc.

I would bet that a complacent employee was lax about securing a gate, and the tiger got out that way. The employee may have realized (during his coffee/smoke break) that he hadn't secured a gate, then gone back to do so. It wouldn't be immediately known from inside whether the cats were all in their grottos, thus the early possibility that more than one cat was loose.

The employee will doubtless deny mistakes like that, and thus the only possible assumption would be that the tiger jumped the moat and scrambled out. When was the last time you ever heard of that happening. The Zoo officials will expect the lawsuits from the killed and injured parties, but re-engineering and replacing all the grotto and moat systems in the US zoos would be massively expensive to these non-profit entities. I would expect a quick decision to throw the employee under the bus, and just pay the damage suits.

137 posted on 12/26/2007 8:27:19 AM PST by RhoTheta ("Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil..." - Ps 23)
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To: buffyt
Tiger did what Tigers do!

It's unfortunate that one escaped and killed a person. That being said, that's a good one. The left is always surprised when animals act like - animals. And not the wise, caring, sensitive, cartoon-like creatures they like to portray them as (or wish they were), mistreated by us boorish humans who 'don't get it'.

138 posted on 12/26/2007 8:29:52 AM PST by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: RhoTheta
The grottos and moats at the SF Zoo have steep walls, and the moats are fairly wide. It is almost inconceivable to me that any of the tigers and lions could have leaped over that moat.

Yes, it is not likely. But, some of those big cats can leap more than 30 ft. with a good run; especially a lean, young animal...


The big cat grottos back up to a building with cages inside where the public can go to view feedings.

I distincly remember more than four tigers when I was there and not a single lion...

139 posted on 12/26/2007 8:37:58 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Centurion2000

>> And you’re an idiot .... the tiger killed someone. You put it’s life above another humans? Shame on you, you damned fool.<<

WRONG! I’m sorry, citizens, you’ve been outvoted by the “scientific lobby”. From Dr. Paul Beier (University of Arizona), the Gummint’s mountain lion guru: “If we’re going to have these large-bodied predators around, every once in a while they’re going to eat us. I’m comfortable with that.”

And BTW, make that “idiotS” and “foolS”.


140 posted on 12/26/2007 8:38:02 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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