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Here's the Reason Why All Guns Are Going to be Prohibited
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Posted on 10/05/2007 3:39:13 PM PDT by processing please hold

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To: mirkwood

You are a funny moron. Please keep in touch.


121 posted on 10/05/2007 8:22:52 PM PDT by mirkwood (chilly tonight in Maine 40 degrees F)
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To: mirkwood

You are a funny moron. Please keep in touch.

OH sorry.. I meant “US”.


122 posted on 10/05/2007 8:26:17 PM PDT by mirkwood (chilly tonight in Maine 40 degrees F)
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To: Sal
No, I didn't know that and it sure doesn't sit well. LOST is particularly upsetting.

L.O.S.T. must pass ratification. Many other treaties behind it are depending on it's ratification.

I think if they try to enforce some of the worst ones--such as UN taking actual control over things as opposed to simply putting up signs on OUR national parks--they'll be in for a terrible surprise.

We'll see what happens if lost is ratified. That will give the un all the money they will need without oversight from member nations who until now, paid their bills. They'll be self sufficient so to speak.

They were shocked at the reaction to Shamnesty and that was restricted to words written, spoken and electronic--but still just words. I sure hope they don't force us beyond words.

I hope they don't force us as well, it won't be pretty.

123 posted on 10/05/2007 8:26:45 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

To make a long story short , when enough laws are passed to where a citizen finds that it is impossible to obey them and be a lawful citizen ; why not just cut to the chase ?

I never register any home defense device nor any device to defend myself because my right to life comes from God via the Founding Fathers . No free citizen is required to have permission from any Government to do so .


124 posted on 10/05/2007 8:52:10 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: dorben

Boys clubs do not limit membership. This group takes only trained personnel. It is also structured such that at present it is completely legal. Infiltration is not an issue.


126 posted on 10/05/2007 9:03:29 PM PDT by bluetone006 (The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise - Tacitus)
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To: dorben
I never register any home defense device nor any device to defend myself because my right to life comes from God via the Founding Fathers

Aren't weapons registered when the application to purchase that weapon is filled out. Then all a national gun registry would do is turn in that state information to a national database, like the FBI, I suppose or make state information available to other state law enforcement. Correct?

127 posted on 10/05/2007 9:05:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: dorben

I forgot to add this. The only way there is no paper trail is through private person to person transactions.


128 posted on 10/05/2007 9:06:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: bluetone006

It is also structured such that at present it is completely legal. Infiltration is not an issue.

Legal is fine for the times that we live in now . I’m thinking further into the future . Infiltration is always an issue when a group of people start out as honorable and with moral intent .
My experience is the way the FedGov views you and your’s , me and mine . While I tip my hat to you for at least trying to do something about the future , I’ll stay out of the loop and perhaps look things over in about 5 years .


129 posted on 10/05/2007 9:13:32 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: processing please hold

The only way there is no paper trail is through private person to person transactions.

Yes Sir .


130 posted on 10/05/2007 9:14:47 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: dorben
Yes Sir .

Ma'am, common mistake. ;)

131 posted on 10/05/2007 9:17:46 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: thefactor; processing please hold
should felons have the right to carry guns legally?

If theyre safe enough to walk the streets, then by all means allow them to have arms, so long as the rest of us can counter balance them. not like they dont have em anyway.

and whos to say what a 'felony' is anymore? or could be tomarrow.

The scariest part of this thread is the fact that our political hacks in DC cant be trusted to not make a deal with the un, binding or not, that they would put lawyer spin on to coerce a large amount of dis-armament.

when that or some other silly sh!t like kali style incrementalism happens- most folks will probably feel like their 'all alone' and wont be ready to martyr themselves, knowing damn good and well that all theyre gonna get is a bunch of electronic support/condemnation.

We'd be better off if the libs would go ahead and declare war on us, imo thats gonna be the only thing to rally folks together. Is it time yet? we keep asking because we dont dare declare the war ourselves without being persecuted/prosecuted and really left alone...

I just pray that if the boot kicks on my door that I can win at least one battle...

my .02...

132 posted on 10/05/2007 9:19:49 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen said: "The citizens need to amend the state constitution to include protection of their gun rights."

Some of us are working on it. But the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, protected by the Second Amendment is a right of the people of Kalifornia as well. It's just not recognized by the government. But surely YOU recognize it.

Also, the Constitution of Kalifornia does contain the following:
"All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy."

To suggest that one has a right to "defend life and liberty" and "protect property" and "obtain safety" without the use of guns is equivalent to suggesting that one can "keep and bear arms" without being able to keep and bear handguns.

That virtually every law-enforcement officer in the state carries a handgun is all the proof any court should need that the defense of life requires that one have access to handguns.

133 posted on 10/05/2007 9:28:38 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Gilbo_3
The scariest part of this thread is the fact that our political hacks in DC cant be trusted to not make a deal with the un, binding or not, that they would put lawyer spin on to coerce a large amount of dis-armament.

The reason for my posting the article. To bring it to others attention. Our RKBA is our last line of defense against future presidents (with the backing of those politicians)who have dreams of tyranny.

We'd be better off if the libs would go ahead and declare war on us, imo thats gonna be the only thing to rally folks together. Is it time yet? we keep asking because we dont dare declare the war ourselves without being persecuted/prosecuted and really left alone...

Very true.

I just pray that if the boot kicks on my door that I can win at least one battle..

I agree.

134 posted on 10/05/2007 9:41:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Sal; processing please hold

> LOST is particularly upsetting.<

It is only upsetting to the dozen or so FReepers who have taken the time to learn what it is all about. Off the top of my head, I’d make a guess that 50% or more of the FReepers believe that the US being a part of the UN is a good thing.

They have no idea that we will be living under the UN Constitution one of these days.


136 posted on 10/05/2007 9:42:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Comus
Comus said: "And we are supposed to believe they will die to save something."

To paraphrase General Patton, "Nobody ever saved something by dieing to save it. They saved it by making some other person die while trying to destroy it."

We're still in that awkward time.

137 posted on 10/05/2007 9:46:56 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: B4Ranch
Off the top of my head, I’d make a guess that 50% or more of the FReepers believe that the US being a part of the UN is a good thing.

Lord have mercy.

They have no idea that we will be living under the UN Constitution one of these days.

I hope I'm dead before that day dawns. Or die fighting against it.

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138 posted on 10/05/2007 9:50:36 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: beltfed308
With numbing regularity, good people were seen to knuckle under the demands of authority and perform actions that were callous and severe," Milgram wrote of his results, which were later replicated in nine other countries

Excellent post--and you can be sure Hillary is well aware of the studies. That is the real reason _why_ she wants to be _President_.

Nobody listens to her as a mere Senator any more than they listened to Adolf when he was a political agitator in a beer hall.
139 posted on 10/05/2007 9:57:01 PM PDT by cgbg (Tax fat. Double tax ugly. Triple tax stupid. For the children. :-))
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This is a very good thread for people who care about America.

Repost: (+) THE ART OF THE (WEAPONS) CACHE (+)

The original thread is here.

The Art of the Cache

140 posted on 10/05/2007 10:07:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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