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In Iran, ancient rite links God and wrestling
Yahoo News & Reuters ^ | September 4, 2007 | Reuters

Posted on 09/05/2007 9:38:57 PM PDT by freedom44

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1 posted on 09/05/2007 9:38:59 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Yeah, great abs too.


2 posted on 09/05/2007 9:47:14 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats have plenty of patience for anti-American dictators but none for Iraqi democrats.)
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To: freedom44

No knee wraps, holy crap!


3 posted on 09/05/2007 9:49:57 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: elhombrelibre
'ab' - singular...

And you're right - its mighty great...

Kidding aside - that's quite a lot of weight on that bar....

4 posted on 09/05/2007 9:50:33 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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I don’t know if in his case abs are singular or nonexistent. Sure, it’s a lot of weight. He’s very strong, but not really healthy. I lift weights, but you can’t be a fatty and healthy even pushing iron.


5 posted on 09/05/2007 9:53:02 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats have plenty of patience for anti-American dictators but none for Iraqi democrats.)
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To: freedom44

Maybe we should do something similar with our H.S. phys ed program. ;)


6 posted on 09/05/2007 9:54:24 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: freedom44

I take it this is a Zoroastrian thing?


7 posted on 09/05/2007 10:13:44 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: lesser_satan

Yeah started with Zoroastrianism.


8 posted on 09/05/2007 10:23:12 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: lesser_satan

Yes, it is a pre-islamic tradition traceable at least to the Parthian time of Persian empire. As almost everything positive in the Middle East it existed before Islam.


9 posted on 09/05/2007 10:24:18 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: elhombrelibre
Actually the video didn't really go well with the title, 'Body Building'... Power-lifting, yes -- but Body Building? I guess if you are going for the physique of a Krazy Buffet gold medalist - but not exactly the Charles Atlas type...

I have to believe he has some very strong abs (or 'ab', as I called it) -- its just that they are buried within that thick protective coat of insulation. Heaving all that weight around can't allow for a weak midsection.
Reminds me of the USSR gold medalist in power lifting from 1972 (I think -- possibly 1968). Alexi something or other I believe. Similarly ... 'impressive' abdominals. The sportscasters kept insisting it was 'all muscle'. I was very young at the time, and I still thought the TV talking heads were spouting nonsense. Blubber is blubber. Doesn't take away the fact that he was very strong -- but that midsection protrusion sure didn't look like any muscle group that I was familiar with.

10 posted on 09/05/2007 10:27:20 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SolidWood; freedom44
That's what I figured. I'm surprised the islamofascists haven't destroyed it yet.

They had a hell of a great civilization until Jimmy the Liverspot conspired with the Aya-Toilets to undermine it.

11 posted on 09/05/2007 10:38:11 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: freedom44

Sick wrestlers, Can’t wait to see some of them compete in MMA


12 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:49 PM PDT by SShultz460
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To: freedom44

The title you created “Iran’s ancient bodybuilding tradition” was not the title at the linked source. Please do not make up your own titles. We’re trying to reduce the number of duplicate threads.

Thanks.


13 posted on 09/05/2007 10:45:45 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: SShultz460

The Iranians are world class wrestlers, arguably the best in the world. Tough to beat.


14 posted on 09/05/2007 10:46:43 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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15 posted on 09/05/2007 10:48:38 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: freedom44

I wonder if Alexander and his soldiers brought the idea of gymnasiums to Persia?


16 posted on 09/05/2007 10:51:07 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: freedom44; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; airborne; ...

The Zurkhaneh is the Iranian equivqalent of Karate. Similar to the Asian rulers forbidding weapons, the Arabs forbade weapon training when they overran ancient Iran.

As a result. sports arenas with deep round wrestling pits became the secret gathering places for “sports wrestling” which in fact was body hardening for warfare disguised as a sport.

Initially it was anti-Islam but over time became perverted to a mix of Islam and a form of Sufism with increasing emphasis on certan Islamic “saints”.

Shaban Jaffari (known as Shabban ‘bimokh’ = the brainless, indicating fearles as much as anything derogatory) was one of the most famous of these Zurkhaneh (means house of strength) athletes and a lower class social leader.

In the restoration of the Monarchy in the 1950’s he spearheaded suport for the monarchy and rabble roused in that direction, earning a postion of favor with the late Shah.

Shaban died recently as a historical person of the people.


17 posted on 09/05/2007 11:20:54 PM PDT by FARS ( Good Thoughts (lead to) Good Words, (which together) lead to Good Deeds)
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To: FARS

Very good info, thanks.


18 posted on 09/05/2007 11:32:20 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: lesser_satan
I looked up some sites, and they said how the decoration of the Zurkhaheh is full of ancient Persian mythological figures, as well as Shia imagery. It says:

Zurkhaneh is said to have originated when Persian warriors were forced to practice their martial arts pursuits secretly in their homes after the Arab invasion. As the centuries went by the sport became legalized and a tradition. … "Felicitations on the birthday of the second imam and curses to all the enemies of the first imam," roars a bearded pahlavan (champion) who leads the group …A poet sings as the drumming picks up to an intense and deafening momentum. "Iran is my sanctuary and my home! If all of us die it is much better than to give our land to the enemy!" he cries.

19 posted on 09/06/2007 12:04:42 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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Imagine if you could wrestle like an Iranian and throwdown/bang like a Lithuanian. That’d be Money


20 posted on 09/06/2007 12:48:55 AM PDT by SShultz460
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