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Bonds at Wrigley: Seeing is grieving (BARRY-MANIA (BONDS NOT OBAMA) GOES WILD IN CHICAGO)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 20, 2007 | JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times Columnist

Posted on 07/20/2007 9:07:10 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Chi-townChief

Where’s that air horn when you need it?


21 posted on 07/20/2007 9:40:46 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: dakine

Babe Ruth
Debut July 11, 1914
Final Game May 30, 1935

Prohibition
Start January 16, 1920
End December 5, 1933


22 posted on 07/20/2007 9:41:16 AM PDT by John W
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To: dakine
Only after prohibition was repealed in 1933. But there was never any notion that a snoot full of booze was a performance enhanser on the ball field; nor was it used for cheating purposes. Take Hank Wilson for instance:

Arguably, Wilson’s 1930 season was the best ever by a hitter. In addition to hitting 56 home runs, leading the league with 105 walks, and boasting a batting average of .356, he drove in 191 runs, a mark that remains one of the most untouchable MLB records. (For years, record books gave the total as 190, until research in 1999 showed that an RBI credited by an official scorer to Charlie Grimm actually belonged to Wilson.) He recorded that total without hitting a grand slam. For comparison, when Barry Bonds hit 73 home runs, he drove in 137 runs.

His excessive alcoholism led him to a premature death at the age of 48.

23 posted on 07/20/2007 9:43:01 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: John W

For medicinal purposes only. LOL


24 posted on 07/20/2007 9:44:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Weeedley

That’s another small ballpark record.


25 posted on 07/20/2007 9:45:05 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Weeedley

Hack, not Hank...


26 posted on 07/20/2007 9:45:43 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Chi-townChief; All

Convicted without every having been arrested or tried. What a great country!


27 posted on 07/20/2007 9:48:08 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Chi-townChief

How come Hack’s 56 HR’s stood for decades when the other players were using the same “small” ball parks?

Ernie Banks never approached it and played in the same Wrigley field too.


28 posted on 07/20/2007 9:51:08 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Chi-townChief

How come Hack’s 56 HR’s stood for decades when the other players were using the same “small” ball parks?

Ernie Banks never approached it and played in the same Wrigley field too.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 9:51:16 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: dakine
I got so Hack[ed] off at the ignorant posters i misspelled it.
30 posted on 07/20/2007 9:53:27 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: SoldierDad
It’s only a game.. there need be no due process in administering the rules. A whiff of roid in the air is sufficient for throwing the bum out of the game.
31 posted on 07/20/2007 9:56:03 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

Maybe that booze paid off for him.


32 posted on 07/20/2007 10:11:37 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Weeedley

Ah, but Bonds (who has never tested positive for steroids) is the only one who is being villified. I don’t hear calls for Sammy Sosa being thrown out, nor any other of the myriad of players who have either been shown to have used or are suspected of steroid use (including some pitchers). I don’t see a huge outcry against Pro-Football players, or hockey players, or basketball players, etc, etc, etc. Just Barry Bonds, the man many love to hate. Oh, and how sure are we that hammer’n Hank wasn’t also juiced up? Since there was no drug testing policies at the time, whose to say? Comparisons of Bond’s record to Hank’s shows a pattern that is nearly identical over the span of both men’s careers. Does this raise the suspicions of people looking for a reason to “throw the bums out”?

Regarding your ascertion that no due process is needed to convict someone - BS. If that’s all the further you are willing to go (just a whiff or suspicion) then let’s try that approach to criminal law too, shall we? After all, if it’s good enough for America’s greatest pastime . . .!!


33 posted on 07/20/2007 10:24:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: VRWCmember
It’d have to be a damn powerful flash to provide any light on Barry Bonds, the ball, or the pitcher.

Turn out all the lights in the stadium. Complete darkness. You think that any of that flash (even on a professional camera) is going to reach from the stands (let alone the upper decks in the outfield) to home plate?

You can open your aperture up as much as you’d like, it's not going to help.

34 posted on 07/20/2007 10:34:53 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: SoldierDad
The rage is their, its just channeled more to Barry than anyone else because he is about to break the record. A lot of people are angry at Barry, Canseco, Giambi, Sosa and all the other abusers. These people are dragging Americas past time through the mud.
35 posted on 07/20/2007 10:40:38 AM PDT by WhiteSox1837
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To: SoldierDad
Eligibility for the baseball record books have nothing to do with due process/criminal law. Who cares if his steroid enlarged head is in jail or not; just don't mess with the history of the national pastime.
36 posted on 07/20/2007 4:34:03 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

So, despite zero evidence of steroid use, you are going to be the judge and jury and abolish him because of your hatred for the man. By the way, despite the fact that I’ve never used any type of steroid in my life (including prescribed), my head size is larger than when I was in my teens or twenties. Great evidence people have of Bond’s guilt.


37 posted on 07/21/2007 3:06:02 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: SoldierDad

Not so fast, their is a federal grand jury impaneled investigating Bonds for illegal steroid use that has extended for six months. The word is that they are sure they going to indite. Whatever this juiced bozo does on the field, it will intimately be expunged from the record books.

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_200191710.html

What a time of legal scandal and drama in professional sports:

Bonds under investigation.
Vick indited for dog fighting savagery.
NBA ref investigated by FBI for throwing games with bad calls and gambling.
Wrestler kills family and hangs himself in fit of roid rage. Golf.
John Daly’s lifestyle gets the better of him and he cant sink a three footer.


38 posted on 07/21/2007 7:05:05 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

If Bonds is indicted, tried, and then convicted, then people will have a right to want his home run record expunged. Until then, they can all blow smoke.


39 posted on 07/21/2007 8:35:08 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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