Posted on 07/16/2007 3:35:05 PM PDT by george76
Now a 12 volt car battery is dc, and even though it has say 90 amps,(cheap batt) it won't kill you. go grab the neg and positive teminals, you won't feel a thing.
Of coarse, it isn't anything like the 660,000 volt dc transmission lines I play with, But if you are stupid enough to think household ac voltage isn't high voltage, even 120, you are just a right circumstance away from dead.
Yes, and they should have spanish instructions.
And how do you know the Lord didn't avenge this one? There was no one present except the guy who toasted himself?
Also, the Lord works His vengeance through men. Did you not know that? Governmental authority exercises God's wrath.
Romans 13:3,4: "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."
The sword in verse 4 is an instrument of death. It is entirely appropriate for Christians to wish justice upon lawbreakers. That's all I have seen on this thread.
Some interesting videos, there.
Last year, some mexicans used a chainsaw to cut down a power pole with a transformer on it near my workplace. I guess transformers have about 200 lbs of copper wire in them. WE had no power at work for half a day, till the power company could send someone out to run jumper wires from one wire to the other on another pole.
As far as I know, no one was hurt while cutting down the power pole and stealing the transformer.
Another one got his final shock today near Cincinnati while trying to steal utility wires.
“High voltage” can mean a lot of things according to this Wiki article.
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In electric power transmission engineering, high voltage is usually considered any voltage over approximately 35,000 volts.
The International Electrotechnical Commission and its national counterparts (IEE, IEEE, VDE, etc.) define high voltage circuits as those with more than 1000 V for alternating current and at least 1500 V for direct current, and distinguish it from low voltage (50–1000 V AC or 120–1500 V DC) and extra low voltage (<50 V AC or <120 V DC) circuits. This is in the context of the safety of electrical apparatus.
In the United States 2005 National Electrical Code (NEC), high voltage is any voltage over 600 V (article 490.2). Laypersons may consider household mains circuits (100–250 V AC), which carry the highest and most dangerous voltages they normally encounter, to be high voltage. For example, an installer of heating, ventilation and air conditioning equipment may be licenced to install 24 Volt control circuits, but may not be permitted to connect the 240 volt power circuits of the equipment.
Voltages over approximately 50 volts can usually cause dangerous amounts of current to flow through a human being touching two points of a circuit, so safety standards generally are more restrictive where the chance of contact with such high voltage circuits exists.
In digital electronics, a high voltage is the one that represents a logic 1 (1.1–5 V).
I’m sure they make more than one model! Probably the guy was using the wrong tool for the job.
It’s got more to do with crystal methamphetamine addiction than anything else.
I was caught ripping electrical wire out of the wall of a house for this very reason. The copper is worth a lot of money.
My wife informed me that it was our house and was going to cost us a fortune to replace. I got lucky as she did not kill me.
I bet it wasn't tagout, it was lockout.
I can picture one of his "friends" slipping a bag of microwave popcorn into his pocket, turning the juice back on and tell the rest to hold his beer and watch this.
I didn’t say it wouldn’t kill you. It’s not the voltage that kills you anyway, as you probably know. But I still say that 220 is not high voltage. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Have you ever met any of the guys that do recycling? The guys that bring the stuff in are the weirdos.
Weirdos or not, I still don't see why this can't be stopped with non-corrupt Cops.
Oh, now I get it...
No, sorry, but 220 is not considered high voltage. I agree, it’s certainly enough to kill, but so is one volt. It’s still not considered high voltage by power transmission professionals.
You think that’s uglt? You should see the safety videos we have to watch at the beginning of every new 345Kv project we start, and we do nothing with the electrical end of it, just the civil construction part.
We had a guy here in Indiana killed about a month ago. With the help of his partner, he climbed a ladder and started cutting through a live 7200 volt line with bolt cutters. He got blown off the ladder, killing him. The partner was charged with manslaughter.
Several years ago there was an idiot down in north Texas who was stealing the aluminum wires off 13Kv distribution lines that TXU was building into new subdivisions. He then branched out into the country and was cutting down live lines. He did not last long doing that. He smoked himself and his family tried suing TXU.
To Donna Bakaitis, her oldest son didn't die trying to steal copper wire from the Radford Foundry. Instead, she said, he died while doing his best to try to provide for his family, something he had done since he was a teenager.
Christopher Brandon Goad, 24, died shortly after 8 p.m. Sunday at the DeCamp Burn Center at the University of Virginia Health Sciences Center in Charlottesville.
Burned everywhere except his feet Thursday, he clung to life for more than eight hours after being removed from life support about noon Sunday, his family said.
Goad and his stepfather, Stephen Edward Bakaitis, 46, were both severely burned during what police are calling a break-in that went terribly wrong. Donna Bakaitis said Goad used a hacksaw to cut into a live 4,160-volt foundry wire early Thursday morning.
She believes her husband was hurt trying to help Goad. She said she knew of her husband's and son's plan to break into the foundry, and they had assured her that, because the foundry had been closed for three years, there would be no live wires there.
Stephen Bakaitis, called Steve by friends and family, was listed in serious condition at the burn center Monday afternoon. He has a breathing tube and can't talk, Donna Bakaitis said.
But family members believe they've figured out what happened based on his injuries.
Steve Bakaitis suffered severe burns to his right arm and left hand, which was so severely damaged he may never regain use of it, his wife said.
"I believe Steve tried to grab Chris" and pull him off the flaming wire, she said.
Deciding to take her son off life support was the hardest thing she's ever had to do, Donna Bakaitis said, but she said he essentially died on the foundry's roof.
"God works miracles, but he was taking Chris home," she said.
Doctors said Chris Goad would have needed at least 30 skin-graft surgeries to survive, said his uncle, Thomas Goad.
Even then, he said, he likely would have been blind and wouldn't have been able to talk because his lungs were severely damaged when he inhaled the fire. He wouldn't have been able to walk. And the risk of infection would have been so great he wouldn't have been able to hold his soon-to-be-born child, his mother said.
Chris Goad was always a family man, Donna Bakaitis said. He and his girlfriend, Teresa "T.C." Cole, have a 2-year-old son, Christian Keith Goad, and a daughter, Grace Alize Cole, who turns 4 today.
"That boy of mine had a heart of gold," Donna Bakaitis said. "He loved his children beyond belief."
The young family shared a small Radford apartment with Steve and Donna Bakaitis and their son, Stephen Paul Bakaitis, who's 21.
"We were cramped but happy," Donna Bakaitis said.
Chris Goad raised the younger Stephen Bakaitis and his brother Josh Bakaitis, who is now 19 and lives in Waynesboro.
Growing up, they lived for several years with their grandmother, who was disabled. Chris Goad, just a few years older than his brothers, did the cooking and cleaning and made sure Stephen and Josh got to school, his family said.
"He was a good man," Thomas Goad said. "He was a hard-working man even from a young age when he took on the responsibility of raising his two little brothers."
Somehow Chris Goad managed to maintain a positive outlook, his brother said.
"He was always enthusiastic about life, always positive," Josh Bakaitis said. "Just a selfless type. He would do anything for his kids, obviously," he said, referring to the incident at the foundry.
Donna Bakaitis got news of her son's and husband's injuries while she was in the New River Valley Regional Jail in Dublin, where she is serving a yearlong sentence for driving as a habitual offender. She was released from the jail at 5 p.m. Friday, the day after her son and husband were hurt. She must return at 6 p.m. Saturday.
When she got the news, she said, other women in the jail rallied around her for support "but I wasn't with my family."
Stephen Paul Bakaitis, Goad's half-brother, is incarcerated at the regional jail on breaking and entering and theft charges. He has a preliminary hearing on the charges scheduled for September.
He is hoping to be temporarily released to attend his brother's funeral, his mother said. Funeral arrangements have not yet been made.
Donna Bakaitis is trying to get an extension on her own release from jail so she can be with her husband as he recovers while grieving the loss of his stepson, she said.
"He's not out of the woods yet," she said. "He could get an infection. He could die."
In addition to the burns to his hand and arm, Donna Bakaitis said, Steve Bakaitis suffered severe burns to one leg and to his face. His eyelashes, eyebrows and moustache are all gone, his wife said.
"He can't talk or anything," Josh Bakaitis said. "He can understand your questions," attempting to nod in response on a good day.
Sobbing over the telephone, Donna Bakaitis talked about the closeness of her family.
"We didn't want to lose each other this way," she said.
Thomas Goad said his nephew had tried to find a job but had no luck. Chris Goad was smart, he said, but never finished high school.
"It's hard to get work down there," Josh Bakaitis said, explaining that he moved to Waynesboro from the New River Valley to find work.
"They didn't have a whole lot of options. No options," Thomas Goad said. "It's a day-to-day struggle just to maintain life for these two gentlemen and their children."
Breaking into the foundry, he said, "wasn't a selfish act. It was just a last-ditch effort to try to put something on the table for his kids."
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