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Windows Vista Features and Services Harvest User Data for Microsoft - From your machine!
Softpedia ^ | 07/02/07 | Marius Oiaga

Posted on 07/02/2007 7:38:03 AM PDT by Salo

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To: VA_Gentleman
Windows XP has done this data harvesting to an extent as well, but you can at least tell it, "No I'm not sending a report to MS!" then I shut down the service manually.

"So basically if I didn’t click “No” when I set up my Vista, then MSFT can pull any sort of data they want?"

Far as I know if you refuse the DLA it won't install.

61 posted on 07/02/2007 9:16:13 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: gcruse

I hate all that stuff too. Not that I’m doing anything a reasonable person would object to, but (1) it’s none of their business, reasonable or not, and (2) where is my ironclad guarantee that everyone that ever sees any of this information will be reasonable, by MY definition?


62 posted on 07/02/2007 9:17:30 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh, my. It’s Doctor in a Potty.


63 posted on 07/02/2007 9:17:32 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: TChris

I’m at 127.0.0.1.


64 posted on 07/02/2007 9:18:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: TommyDale

I hate you.


65 posted on 07/02/2007 9:18:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: TChris
Well, since they already know it, I'll just post it on FR for all to see. I mean, why fight the inevitable? 192.168.0.100

Dang! My firewall is configured to give you full access!

66 posted on 07/02/2007 9:19:47 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: ShadowAce
It's not even in their interest to do what you suggest. They want to (A) Sell software (B) Sell software.

Adopting policies that routinely go shutting down users for no reason, or limiting people from doing what they want to do on their computer is contrary to that end. They'll lose customers.

Why start down that slippery slope now when we can avoid it altogether?

What is the slippery slope, in your opinion? Automatic updating? You can turn that off, but I think you'd be stupid to.

67 posted on 07/02/2007 9:22:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sloth
Dang! My firewall is configured to give you full access!

That's just the beginning! If you look, you'll see that I've even given one of your computers my IP address!!

Muahahahaha!

All your base are belong to us.
You are on your way to destruction.
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Hahahhahahaha.

68 posted on 07/02/2007 9:23:36 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: ShadowAce

I think there are many potential dangers in this age of computers and the Internet. It is good to be on guard at all times. I’m just not going to complain until I see a real threat.


69 posted on 07/02/2007 9:24:21 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ShadowAce

You explained all that better than I did. ;-)


70 posted on 07/02/2007 9:25:16 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TChris

Gee, non routable.

Mine’s 10.1.1.256.


71 posted on 07/02/2007 9:25:50 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: ShadowAce
while the data it collects may, in fact, help it write better software,

When did microsoft become interested in better software?

The files saved by the latest MS orifice are unreadable by earlier versions. Pages and pages of total gibberish.

If you 'save as' an earlier version, you can at least recover the text in an earlier version, too bad about the formatting, though.

72 posted on 07/02/2007 9:28:57 AM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: null and void
I'm especially irritated with MS at the moment. I’ve lost pages of work on a patent application. The new improved MicroSuck Office 2007 not only sent them to never-never land, it won’t even admit that it ever worked on them. They are not to be found even in the recent documents list.

Sounds like you failed to save it. Surely you wouldn't want MS "Saving" things you don't tell it to save... if they did you'd be ranting about THAT.

Oh, and MegaSuck Office Basic 2007 doesn't include PowerPoint. They did keep the malware LOOKOUT!, I mean, Outlook, though.

Powerpoint is a very specialized software most people don't need. If they included it in the BASIC version, people would bitch about THAT.

As for Outlook... I've used it for years without any problem. It's better than any other mail/calendar/contact manager I've seen.

73 posted on 07/02/2007 9:29:03 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Lx
Gee, non routable.

Mine’s 10.1.1.256.

Yeah, that's another (Class A) one. We use that here at work, though the 192.168.x.x one would have sufficed.

Your home router assigns 10.x.x.x addresses? I haven't seen any myself that use it.

Do you mind saying what brand it is?

74 posted on 07/02/2007 9:29:53 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: null and void
Ooops - I failed to Italicize this... your words... not mine...

Oh, and MegaSuck Office Basic 2007 doesn't include PowerPoint. They did keep the malware LOOKOUT!, I mean, Outlook, though.

Powerpoint is a very specialized software most people don't need. If they included it in the BASIC version, people would bitch about THAT.

As for Outlook... I've used it for years without any problem. It's better than any other mail/calendar/contact manager I've seen.

75 posted on 07/02/2007 9:30:02 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TChris
Umm, technically no. The cable router I had gave me a public IP. Bad idea, yes.

I used to put a PC out there to see all the script kiddies go nuts. A machine named finance01 must be enticing;).

Behind my NATTED firewall, it (the fiewall) would log the attacks on the public side. Literally a 100 a day. I got so many I turned off the SNMP alerts I received for every one. Since I could modify the router's MAC address on the public side I used to change the public IP address I got and I still got hit with the kiddies. The plus side to a public address is I could set up a Citrix server for when my wife traveled.

Now that I have DSL, they stop outside access at the edge router and if you want to be able to get to your assigned IP address, guess what, it costs more!

76 posted on 07/02/2007 9:32:02 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: null and void
The files saved by the latest MS orifice are unreadable by earlier versions.

That's always been the case. No software can read documents that were created on versions that did not exist when that software was written. And if you save it down, the only formatting that should be lost is formatting that was not possible in the earlier version.

77 posted on 07/02/2007 9:32:43 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TChris

It is a Netgear, I forget the model, it’s also wireless. The old Netgear came in a metal box, this one has a sleek plastic case and it only has one antenna.
If you turn off DHCP, you can assign probably any address you want of the non routable type although it would be pretty funny if it let you assign any address.

Did you not notice my funny in previous address?


78 posted on 07/02/2007 9:35:44 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ah, but I did save the document. I even ‘save as’ed a copy. Twice. Even with a new file name.

They also thoughtfully totally changed the GUI interface, offering me an opportunity to re-learn how to use a familiar application.

I’m not bitching about that because it looks like once I do get the hang of it, it will actually be an improvement.

(Besides way back when, if you tried to close an application they would prompt you to save any documents, rather than assuming you didn’t want to save hours of work)...

79 posted on 07/02/2007 9:36:26 AM PDT by null and void (Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
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To: TChris

localhost - WFM... ;)


80 posted on 07/02/2007 9:38:26 AM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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