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Harry Potter Countdown Thread

Posted on 06/27/2007 1:30:44 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith

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461 posted on 07/13/2007 3:43:28 AM PDT by andyssister (Accio July 21!)
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To: andyssister

Another day passes.

It’s Friday the 13th, fwiw.


462 posted on 07/13/2007 6:41:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: Tax-chick
Yes, a good day to get some news. A few chapter titles, maybe??

I keep going to Jo's website (for some reason I can't post a link to it, but it's jkrowling.com.)

If you click on the pink eraser it takes you to a door with a do not disturb sign.

I've tried everything, including pouring the liquids into the plant, but no luck. :)

I want that door to open!!!

463 posted on 07/13/2007 7:01:45 AM PDT by andyssister (Accio July 21!)
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To: andyssister

It looks like you’ll just have to wait another week!


464 posted on 07/13/2007 8:11:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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Maybe the new director changed his “look” a bit.

Why not. They totally changed Flitwick's look in the last movie.

465 posted on 07/13/2007 9:19:52 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: andyssister
Yes, a good day to get some news. A few chapter titles, maybe??

Well, we can be sure that it won't include these chapter titles
8-)

466 posted on 07/13/2007 9:23:45 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: andyssister
Well, here's a few predictions about what's going to happen, IMO:

1. Snape will show up at Number 4 Privet Drive, at 11:00 on July 30th. He will attempt to warn Harry, and attempt to explain his supposed murder of Dumbledore. Harry must choose whether or not to trust him.... All previous books have had Harry deciding "not," and being (mostly) wrong. This time, Harry will have matured enough to provisionally trust Snape, though the doubts will remain. This will end up being the right choice, and will be a sign of Harry finally approaching the maturity of looking beyond his own emotions.

2. On the stroke of midnight on Harry's birthday, the Death Eaters will blow the doors off of Number 4 Privet Drive, taking advantage of the expiration of Harry's protection. Vernon -- the uber-muggle -- may well be killed.

3. Snape may be among them, and will end up saving Harry's life.

4. Petunia will recognize Snape. We will learn that he was "that awful boy" who told her about the dementors; and we will perhaps learn that Petunia and Snape were at one time an item. Her marriage to the uber-muggle Vernon Dursely was a reaction to being jilted by the wizard Snape.

5. Either Fred or George Weasley will die, but not both.

6. Despite his youth, Harry becomes the leader of the Order of the Phoenix. His experiences as DADA teacher (OOTP) and Quidditch Captain (HBP) are poor preparation, but helpful -- and he learns that he must trust others to do and know things that he cannot. The biggest challenge to his leadership will be his inexplicable trust of Snape.

7. Norbert the Dragon will make a return visit, as the kids travel to Romania and (eventually) Bulgaria to recruit Viktor Krum, and also perhaps to visit the giants.

8. Harry, Ron, and Hermione survive. But Harry will sacrifice himself in some way ("greater love hath no man....").

9. The prophecy (... neither can live while the other survives) will turn out to refer to THREE people, not two. There are the two people within "neither," and then there is "The Other."

10. Remember that the ingredients of VOldemort's recreation include Harry's blood, and the flesh of a servant "willingly given" (Wormtail's hand). But Harry's blood contains his mother's protection, and Wormtail owes a life debt to Harry. Two of the three major ingredients of Voldemort's potions are therefore potential weapons against him! Ultimately, Voldemort cannot kill Harry because of the blood, and Wormtail (aka Judas) will save Harry's life, essentially retracting the "willingly given" and at the same time paying off his life debt at the cost of his own.

467 posted on 07/13/2007 9:51:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Tanniker Smith

Those are very funny! Did you make them up?


468 posted on 07/13/2007 9:52:51 AM PDT by andyssister (Accio July 21!)
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Yeah, those were mine.
I was planning on doing something similar every day, but I temporarily ran out of ideas, and then I ran out of time . . .
Maybe later if I get a chance.
469 posted on 07/13/2007 10:33:28 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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9. The prophecy

I've heard this one also, and I'm not sure that I buy into it. One must die at the hand of the other and neither can live while the other survives. If this is read as three people, then the way I see it, at least two of them have to die.

470 posted on 07/13/2007 10:38:29 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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Oh, and let me add: if it turns out that Neville is the one that kills Voldemort and that he is somehow "the other", then it is my opinion that the wrong person's name has been on all of these books.

"Oh, come on, Hermione? Whose name is on these books? What would they call a book about you? Hermione Granger and the Ceiling of Glass?"
-- Harry Potter roast, Lunacon 2007

471 posted on 07/13/2007 10:44:44 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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They totally changed Flitwick's look in the last movie.

Oh, did they? I guess I wasn't watching very closely!

472 posted on 07/13/2007 11:00:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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4. Petunia will recognize Snape. We will learn that he was "that awful boy" who told her about the dementors; and we will perhaps learn that Petunia and Snape were at one time an item. Her marriage to the uber-muggle Vernon Dursely was a reaction to being jilted by the wizard Snape.

That's an interesting approach.

473 posted on 07/13/2007 11:02:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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If this is read as three people, then the way I see it, at least two of them have to die.

Right. So let's run with that. If Dumbledore is correct that Harry and Voldemort comprise the pair within "neither," then "the other" would have to kill either Harry or Voldemort, and die in the process. That ends up working out nicely, plot-wise.

It is inconceivable that Voldemort doesn't die in the end. At the same time, though, Harry seems incapable of performing unforgiveable curses. (I'd be willing to bet that Harry even tries to use Avada Kedavra on Voldemort, and is unable to do it.) That being the case, it's clear that somebody else will have to do it ... hence, Rowling must provide "the other."

Which brings us to Wormtail, who owes his life to Harry. He "survives" because of Harry's decision in the Shrieking Shack, and Dumbledore told Harry that this forges a bond between the two, that might come in handy at a later date.

Based on the book cover, my guess is that the climactic battle takes place at the Veil, down in the Department of Mysteries. Harry will try to destroy the final horcrux by tossing it through the veil.

Harry is about to die ... perhaps by diving through the veil with horcrux in hand. Voldemort stands between Harry and the veil, and stands ready to kill him. And Wormtail gets the chance that Judas did not: he pulls a Gollum by tackling Voldemort through the veil. In so doing, he fulfills his role as "the other," and also pays off his life debt to Harry.

BTW, along those lines, I predict that "the Deathly Hallows" is, in fact, another name for the Veil. To "hallow" means "to set apart for holy use." I think we already know that the Veil separates the world of the living, from that of the dead.

474 posted on 07/13/2007 11:04:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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And Wormtail gets the chance that Judas did not: he pulls a Gollum by tackling Voldemort through the veil. In so doing, he fulfills his role as "the other," and also pays off his life debt to Harry.

That sounds quite plausible.

475 posted on 07/13/2007 11:07:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: r9etb
I've heard Gollum's name mentioned before, which is why I hope that she doesn't go that route -- it'd be a contrived ending to the series.

Actually, the one thing that I keep thinking about is that Dumbledore essentially told Harry that he didn't have to follow the prophecy -- and back in Book 2, he emphasized "choices". However, Voldemort is a slave to such things and he will force the prophecy to occur if for no other reason then his followers (and non-followers) will be expecting him to.

That said, Harry doesn't have to face Voldemort alone. V will try to force a 1-on-1, but Harry is free to bring in his friends. And the Power of Love (cue Celine Dion or Huey Lewis) will prevail.

Harry must defeat the Dark Lord (vanquish). Does he have to kill him? We've seen that wizards are powerless without their wands (or are they?), so Harry could disarm him while someone else sacrifices themselves. But that won't satisfy the readers. That isn't closure (unless, perhaps, the dementors suck out his soul after that).

Now that you mention the Veil, it occurs to me that Harry could "kill" Voldemort with a "push" spell of some kind, but that has the problem of being too similar to the way that Sirius died and also a very old and geeky Dungeons and Dragons legend.

476 posted on 07/13/2007 11:29:27 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Only 7 days before we know for sure....


477 posted on 07/13/2007 11:35:12 AM PDT by r9etb
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Oh ... here's a good one I heard recently: everybody figures a Weasley will die. My money's on Fred or George, but others propose Molly or Percy.

Anyway, the idea was that this dead Weasley makes another apearance as an Inferi. Now wouldn't that be a gruesome thing....

478 posted on 07/13/2007 11:36:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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Percy would be no great loss.


479 posted on 07/13/2007 11:42:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
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To: Tax-chick

True — which is why my money’s on Fred or George.


480 posted on 07/13/2007 11:47:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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