New Find Reveals Macabre Tale Of 400-Year-Old 'Neo-Con'

Alpha Galileo ^ | 4-24-2007 | University Of Manchester

[blam]

Hee, hee. (Neo-Cons)

[blam]

GGG Ping?

[LongElegantLegs]

“She also argued for...forced deportation of 400,000 Moriscos - Christians of Muslim descent living in Spain. “That bears a strong resemblance to the sort of things some neo-cons are saying today.

Yup. I'm a one issue voter and that's my issue...Getting rid of all those dad-gum Moriscos.

[Xenalyte]

Luisa came to England not knowing a word of English to realise her dream of converting English protestants to the Catholic faith and martyring herself for the cause.

Not the smartest of moves in 1606. Way to ride that contrarian wave, Luisa!

[Xenalyte]

Those freakin’ Moriscos ruin everything.

[3AngelaD]

What an idiot. Why drag the neo-cons into a 400 year old fight? At the time, you would be hard pressed to find a government or a religious group that WASN’T “interventionist.”

[Logophile]

“That bears a strong resemblance to the sort of things some neo-cons are saying today."

Without a side-by-side comparison of what Luisa de Carvajal and these unnamed "neo-cons" have said on comparable subjects, it is hard to take this seriously.

What, for example, do today's "neo-cons" say about the forced deportation of 400,000 Moriscos from Spain? Did Luisa really refer to the English and Dutch Protestants as an "axis of evil", and would today's neo-cons agree? Do today's "neo-cons" favor intervention in Ireland? Do they favor conversion of English Protestants to Catholicism?

I cannot help but think that Dr. Redworth is trying too hard to make his research seem relevant to the modern world. Either that, or he is just another left-wing academic nut.

[blam]

"It's good that paleoanthropology hasn't become popularly political yet. From what I read the truth of the past matters much today regarding rights and claims of rights. And as always the truth favors the good guys. Interesting article."

You missed this one, lol.

[PAR35]

“The documents suggest it is unlikely that Garnet would have invited a high-profile lone Spanish female agitator into England if he was trying to keep secret a complex plot to murder the King.”

Weak proof for the 'innocence' claim.

[Verginius Rufus]

The author doesn't seem to know much about the Catholic Church or about "neo-cons," just knows they are supposed to be the bad guys.

The 393-year delay isn't so long...it took longer for Joan of Arc (executed 1431, canonized 1920) or Thomas More (executed 1535, canonized 1935 IIRC)...she's approaching Thomas More, but he was a martyr and it still took 400 years.

[Cicero]

It sound as if Dr Glyn Redworth is an absolute moron, with about as much understanding of religion as a pet rock.

On the other hand, she seems to have lucked out and found a stash of really fascinating papers.

Maybe someone else with more sense can make something of them. Eamon Duffy or Christopher Haigh, perhaps.

[xJones]

New Find Reveals Macabre Tale Of 400-Year-Old 'Neo-Con'

As God is my witness, I didn't know Cap Weinberger was that old.

[Reaganesque]

Typical liberalism. History, religion, philosophy, education, science, life, family relations, etc. are all secondary considerations to their political beliefs. There is nothing more important in their lives than advancing their politics.

[Cruising Speed]

It sound as if Dr Glyn Redworth is an absolute moron, with about as much understanding of religion as a pet rock.

On the other hand, she seems to have lucked out and found a stash of really fascinating papers.

Maybe someone else with more sense can make something of them.

Excellent analysis and conclusion, bears repeating.

[mutley]

Why drag the neo-cons into a 400 year old fight?

Don't take every article as worthy of serious contemplation. Take some of them for the nectar that can be extracted. In this case, the humor which can be viewed and enjoyed, from a higher place. And being a freeper, you are at that place. Enjoy.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

****“She was disgusted by the English, who she said threw carrots into carts which the day before had carried the bodies of plague victims.****

Now, just which plague would this have been as the London plague did not happen till 1665.

[Redcloak]

Dr. Redworth obviously suffers from BDS.

[blam]

A General Study of the Plague in England 1539-1640 With a Specific Reference to Loughborough

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam. No ping, but definitely going to add this, I think I had some relatives implicated in the Gunpowder Plot. "They'll never be the head of a major corporation," as Austin Powers sez...

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[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam.

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