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A Thread For Making Your Own Dog Food (In Light of the Recalls)
Free Republic ^ | 3/31/07 | Myself

Posted on 03/31/2007 9:49:22 AM PDT by girlangler

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To: jdm
Is chocolate really bad for dogs? What about white chocolate? Or baking chocolate?

In a word: YES. Chocolate contains a chemical that is harmful to dogs Baking chocolate is the most dangerous. I don't believe white chocolate is really chocolae though.

101 posted on 03/31/2007 9:40:07 PM PDT by Americanchild
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To: girlangler

mark for later


102 posted on 03/31/2007 9:40:13 PM PDT by There's millions of'em (Dem Strategy = Flaws to applause)
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To: RepoGirl
You sound like you know what you are doing in your homemade diet, but you didn't mention if you are adding a calcium source to the food? That was one reason I suggested people reading your post might want to check out K9Kitchen.

The rule of thumb is 1/2 tsp powdered egg shell to one pound of meat. If the calcium isn't added you can end up with too high a phosphorus ratio in the food and end up with kidney issues.

Broccoli is good, but too much can cause thyroid issues... vets get little or no training in pet nutrition in school, I long ago quit taking any kind of nutritional advice from my vet. The training they receive is given by vets hired and trained by Hills and/or Purina.

103 posted on 03/31/2007 10:19:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: girlangler
Links everyone might want to read. Helps to know before you buy:

What's Really in Pet Food

Identifying better products

Ingredients to avoid

Dog Food Ingredients & Nutrition

104 posted on 03/31/2007 10:30:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn; All

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/petrapport03_07.html


Being the bearer of good news and all (heavy sarcasm)...I know a lot of dog owners give pig ears to their pets.


105 posted on 04/01/2007 12:44:48 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Brad's Gramma

There was a recall announced yesterday that some jerkey's (also made in Canada) were recalled for Salmonella... The interesting thing about these recalls is many people are told by their vets not to feed raw because their dogs will get Salmonella, yet we are seeing it in jerkey, pigs ears, etc.... and I feed raw and never had a sick dog (knock on wood)....


106 posted on 04/01/2007 10:16:05 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: HairOfTheDog

Thanks for the ping. I'm getting a bit weary of all this and may just start cooking for my three Bostons.


107 posted on 04/01/2007 4:32:08 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Americanchild
Is chocolate really bad for dogs? In a word: YES.

I once had a boxer that ate a dish full of Hersey's kisses when were away from home. We returned to little scraps of foil all over the floor, and a guilty looking dog. She never showed a problems from it, though. Lucky, I guess.

108 posted on 04/01/2007 7:36:02 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Years ago I had a toy silver poodle (she eventually died of old age and heart problems).

She wasn't really a dog, she was a baby, and I treated her like one.

Anyway, she loved to go bye bye, and everytime we'd pick up the car keys she'd get all excited.

When I'd go in the grocery store store or something and leave her in the car, she'd get mad and go through my purse if I left it in the car. She'd find Klennexes and shred them, and once chewed up an entire pack of gum.


109 posted on 04/02/2007 8:38:01 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; All

Yikes, after reading your post and the link to ingredients to avoid, I feel like I've been abusing my poor pets for years by feeding them commercial pet food.

NEVER AGAIN.

Thanks for this info. I've emailed a link to this thread to all my pet loving friends. You know, they say there is a silver lining in every cloud, and I believe this pet food recall is going to wake a lot of people up.

Think about it: Every vet now sells high end, expensive dog food like Iams and Science Diet. They all tell us not to feed our pets people food, yet push a $15 billion industry, the commercial pet food business. And the food they are selling us is made from the same thing we eat, except instead of good quality meat, they use unspecified, unfit meat renderings mixed with lots of chemicals, etc.

This issue also has me reading food labels on the food I eat. And wondering just how vulnerable humans are when it comes to food safety.


110 posted on 04/02/2007 9:00:19 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler
I am so glad you took the time to check out the links. We lost our first dog to kidney disease and I started home-cooking after that, but I didn't know or understand about grains at the time (no Internet to help me decide the correct home-cooked diet at the time) and we lost a cocker to cancer and I searched out the form of cancer that took her and was shocked to learn that dogs, like cats, are carnivores and need meat and no grains. More than that I read the API article and vacillated between shock and anger at the lack of regulation in the pet food industry. I had watched a 60-minutes show around that time showing a lot of dogs from a euthanizia facility being taken to a rendering plant and it all fell into place in my little pea brain.

Soon after I switched to raw food for their diet. I do feed ground instead of whole like most raw-feeders. Today, unlike nine years ago, people who don't want to feed raw at least have access to a few choices of good quality food that is grain-free. This poisoning of many pets will likely serve to drive the pet-owners who really are concerned, like yourself, to the better food manufacturers and away from grocery/pet-store brands....

We are all very vulnerable. I learned this when I came down with Lupus and read a book on how to regain my health without all the drugs they normally push on us. Like you I became an avid label reader..

You wouldn't believe how much I threw away from my cupboard. Mostly I shop the fresh food aisle at the market and use limited seasonings, opting for those that are preservative-free.

111 posted on 04/02/2007 11:27:43 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I am growing my own seasonings (basil, thyme, rosemary, parsley, garlic and onions)and veggies in my garden now. Many of these can be grown inside the house in pots year-round. Heck, I even have a huge flower pot with lettuce growing in it (it’ll be my first harvest this year).

When we were growing up my siblings and I ate mostly beans (poor Southern folks), in fact I know folks here that have beans every meal.

Right now I am considering finding a source for ground cornmeal and flour that I can trust. The things we need that we can’t grow are flour, meal, and sugar.

I am also lucky enough to live in the country, so I can kill a squirrel or deer if need (in legal season, of course).


112 posted on 04/02/2007 3:35:58 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler
Your dog would love to share the deer with you, provided you live where there isn't wasting disease. Many people with large dogs actually have the local authorities call them when there is fresh road kill so they can gather it up for their dogs.

Unfortunately we have horrible soil and high heat in the summer, gardens that I remember as a child in Texas are not possible.

Our local market does have organic vegies and I buy those -- especially green onions, lettuce, etc. There is some healthfood store cornmeal that is organic. When we lived in California we would drive out to a local farmers market for all our fruits and vegetables, one of the few things I miss. If more people demanded healthier food the market would have to provide it.

113 posted on 04/02/2007 6:36:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: lastchance

I did a Google search on homemade pet food and came across a site that uses the BARF diet. It is also part of a web ring. These are foods you can order. I know this thread is about making your own food, but wanted to put this in case anyone was interested.

http://www.ringsurf.com/netring?ring=getBARF;action=list


114 posted on 04/03/2007 1:37:53 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: girlangler

I’ve already been researching.
Those of us with labs or goldens are pretty lucky in that our doggies will eat anything!

I’d start by researching what vegetables may be toxic or difficult for dogs to digest and steer clear of those.
I’ve always given my doggies boiled chicken and rice as a treat or when they are sick and don’t have an appetite.
She also loves carrots and sweet potatoes. Sweet potatoes are good for combating constipation as well as diarrhea in puppies. Raw carrots are a wonderful snack for a puppy that loves to gnaw. She also loves granny smith apples and celery. The possibilities are endless and not that expensive.


115 posted on 04/10/2007 12:50:03 PM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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