Posted on 02/12/2007 1:35:42 AM PST by Man50D
Here's another one from your side who says he doesn't care much if they are guilty or not, because the shot a drug dealer.
Irrelevant. Both are crimes and both should be punished accordingly.
I choose to overlook whatever law they violated
Congratulations, you’ve taken the first step toward a police state.
Major bump!
There's no conspiracy. There are just a lot of people down here on the border that absolutely despise the Border Patrol. They work for the United States Attorney, they work for the Border Patrol and they work for the Mexican government. They will go out of their way to destroy innocent agents.The idea that two Border Patrol agents set out to murder a poor innocent immigrant and then call for backup so every agent in the area could be a witness to the murder is absolutely absurd.
It seems absurd until you realise that, if they guy had not actually KNOWN the mother of another BP agent, we would never have even known there was a shooting, much less that they had hit the guy.
So it doesn't seem so absurd.
When a full and complete story on this travesty has been dragged out of the federal government and verified, I have little doubt that it will provide yet more evidence that we have a federal government that quite simply can no longer be trusted.
They're "guilty" of doing their job, and possibly not following some obscure and seldom enforced proceedural regulation. It was their job to shoot the perp that failed to submit to arrest.
Why do we reward criminals who break into our country and offer them amnesty? Because we are overrun and it's hopeless to enforce the existing laws? Where's the police state? LOL.
Like I said, there are two sets of laws. If some laws are meant to be broken, surely we can pardon these two men who got caught up with their own sense of duty protecting our Nation?
There's a war on the Border, and YOU of all people know it, Marine Inspector.
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Failure to heed an officer's request is not currently a capital crime in this country, even for illegals.
IMHO, your comment proves my theory as to why there is so much hysteria over this story. Frustration over illegal immigration and border security are blinding otherwise rational people to the facts in the cases of Ramos/Compean.
Would you be willing to pardon two police officers in your hometown for breaking the law and p.d. protocol? Maybe rogue cops who shoot an unidentified "suspect" should be given a free pass as well since they may have just become "caught up in their own sense of duty protecting" your town.
Would you support a new border policy that would allow our B.P. agents to shoot on sight anyone who looks like they might be an illegal Mexican or who they suspect might be involved in drugs?
One of the problems that many people have about understanding this case is their ignorance about border law enforcement and the Border Patrol in particular. This case is about two people that work for an organization that is essentially under the thumb of the Mexican government and it's appeasers in the US government. Every agent knows that if they shoot an illegal alien a lawsuit is a certainty. The point is, Ramos and Campean went to work everyday knowing that if they were involved in a controversial shooting they would be thrown to the wolves, innocent or not.
The vehicle hit a sensor, so every agent in the area was going to respond. After the vehicle hits a sensor Campean calls for back up. The idea that they would try to murder an illegal alien with witnesses while knowing the propensity for the government to attack innoncent agents is absolutely absurd. If you believe that they intended to murder Aldrete then you must also believe that Ramos and Campean wanted to get the death penalty or life in prison.
Better question....
How cozy is the Bush Judicial Dept.. with the Mexican Government(Drug Cartels).?.
The Sandy Burgular affair sent the red flags a'wavin..
Something stinks in republican judicial matters..
Not closing the Mexican border and jailing anyone that intercepts the Mexican governments MOLE/Mules coming across the border.. is suspicious..
The FCC allowing cBS to investigate themselves was almost funny in the Rathergate affair.. You know the FCC with Colin Powells son as the head of it.. that one.. An agengy with a 300 million dollar budget.. allowed cBS to investigate themselves..
I've been watching Bush legal wranglings ever since..
The boy must think we are STUPID.. and he might be CORRECT..
WONDER what has been going on I'm totally clueless about..
Those are just a few hiighlights..
And yet somehow multiple BP agents have shot multiple illegals, and Sutton hasn't prosecuted any of them and we haven't had multi-million-dollar lawsuits.
Only in this one case where the two agents shot a man for no reason.
Johnny Sutton and Alberto Gonzales should be sharing a prison cell.
Capital????
Who died?
I just get more and more sick hearing about this case. Each bit of information just leads to more evidence of not only conspiracy on the part of the prosecution/government, but to incompetence in between. These two border agents are paying the price for all of the above.
When are the hearings going to start? Will they start? Will anything actually be done?
Why has GW Bush not stepped in already - it's not like some cases where the info is obscure and hard to present. This case is rife with enough doubt that is obvious to anyone even taking a cursory look to get these men out of prison before they end up dead.
Thus the reason I believe this corruption goes all the way to the top...
Looks like the government cares more about protecting agents who are in bed with the invaders than about protecting the borders.
Proceedings Sealed???? Huh?
But mules don't "know" they have the drugs (and I think the quantity would preclude that possibility). And when you take a step farther - and acknowledge that the same drug runner has been caught doing it again -
Union Labor?
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