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Government admits lying about jailed border agents (DHS fesses up - Rep. Poe ticked!)
World Net Daily ^ | February 6, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:18:29 PM PST by calcowgirl

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To: marron

Well, you could I suppose prosecute the DHS guy for lying to congress, if he did it under oath.

But what does the DHS not having investigation notes it promised to congress have to do with a jury finding two guys guilty?

We can suppose that there is a connection. But if the DHS guy didn't testify in COURT that he had evidence, and if therefore the evidence was not use IN court, what difference does it make? It's a public relations problem.

I note that DHS has not yet said the claims were false, just that they cannot turn over investigation paperwork proving the claims were true.

Which gets us back to the real issue -- when will be see the transcripts of the ACTUAL TRIAL, so we can see what evidence was presented at the trial. Without that, the rest of this is kind of pointless.

BTW, to be accurate, the Department of Homeland Security isn't an arm of the Prosecuter's office. I don't know if he simply relies on their reports and investigations, or if he runs his own investigations, or if he asked them to investigate.

But I don't think we can blame the Prosecuter for claims made by DHS representatives.

And if you think you can get me to defend DHS, nope, not going to do it. I won't flog them like some people, but they are a big agency and can defend themselves.


41 posted on 02/06/2007 6:35:53 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


42 posted on 02/06/2007 6:36:14 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: SoCalPol

They say he is recovering, but the Warden has yet to authorize an MD to see him. Also unanswered, by his lawyer on BOR tonight, is how a prisoner in his cell sleeping was attacked in his sleep by these guys.


43 posted on 02/06/2007 6:36:30 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NormsRevenge

This looks like one of those rare instances where a special prosecutor should be brought in and weed out the skunks.

The judge should have allowed them to remain free on bond pending appeal, yet another motion by the defendants that the judge denied. That Order is being appealed by Ramos... maybe a sane judge will reverse that order and give them some immediate relief in this nightmare.


44 posted on 02/06/2007 6:36:59 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: listenhillary

Maybe the President is being set up.


45 posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:08 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: listenhillary

What is the percentage of Bushbots remaining on FR?


46 posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!


47 posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:25 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
WOW!!!!! just plain WOW~! I was pissed before, now even more so. I cannot believe I'm saying this, but when it comes to the borders this administration is as corrupt as any that has come before... or more so.

More so. Join the club.

48 posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:37 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't know--my concern is, will they be live through the appeals process?


49 posted on 02/06/2007 6:37:43 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Arizona Carolyn

With all the support they have, it's surprising they don't have the best laywers money can buy.


50 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mware
I am hoping that someone with some common sense gets word to the President about now. It should be emphasized that there has been disinformation given to the Congress. And since the President is not very tolerant of dishonesty and lying, he should consider strongly releasing these two men pending their appeals. This case is starting to become a Duke Lacrosse type scandal and is slowly getting dirtier.
51 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:11 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

GB needs to move them until this is sorted out.


52 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:31 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: calcowgirl
Eagles Up!!!

More coming on H&C about the jurors too!
53 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:39 PM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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To: calcowgirl
Eagles Up!!!

More coming on H&C about the jurors too!
54 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:41 PM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sadly, she was not able to answer the most important questions BOR had to ask her tonight -- like how did they get to him when he was sleeping, wasn't his cell locked -- which would have just him and a cellmate in a locked area? She didnt' know.


55 posted on 02/06/2007 6:38:42 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calcowgirl; RayStacy

We don't want to leave Ray out!


56 posted on 02/06/2007 6:39:01 PM PST by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; xcamel
Chertoff and he was the man in charge of FEMA

So would he have been at FEMA at the same time as Skinner? (See post #14)

57 posted on 02/06/2007 6:39:26 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

It is far past time for Gonzales to appoint a special prosecutor to look into the actions of the Government and its officials in this dirty case.


58 posted on 02/06/2007 6:39:37 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: calcowgirl

I thought the court reporters typed up the transcripts nightly? At least that is what I learned when I took a court reporting class.


59 posted on 02/06/2007 6:39:52 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CAluvdubya

Indeed not!


60 posted on 02/06/2007 6:40:16 PM PST by RayStacy
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