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New `Idol' Season Shows Mean Streak
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070119/D8MOE2J00.html ^ | January 19, 2007 | JOCELYN NOVECK

Posted on 01/19/2007 10:41:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: united1000
Their behavior brought a rebuke from the hosts of ABC's "The View.""The whole thing, it's terribly sad to me," said moderator Rosie O'Donnell.

Pandering.

21 posted on 01/19/2007 10:54:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: linear
At least you're consistent.
22 posted on 01/19/2007 10:55:31 AM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Simon funds the "discovered" performer's career.

If they went into an executive's office and auditioned these acts, would they expect to be treated any better.


23 posted on 01/19/2007 10:56:26 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: Vision

You seem awfully grumpy for someone who professes to delight in the Lord. lol


24 posted on 01/19/2007 10:56:27 AM PST by linear (We must act now to conserve the Earth's precious supply of momentum!)
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To: nmh

Nah, that's the way it works.

Most people audition for lower level producers, who are not particularly rude or helpfully constructive...and then they go home.

The producers specifically pick the best and near best to show the judges plus the most colorful, weirdest and worst.

The TV show is staged as if EVERYONE sings for the judges, and they are being "bombarded" by awful singers, when actually those people are being hand-picked because of their degree of self-delusion, or pity postcard stories, plus, of course, the real hopefuls who have gotten a chance to sing for the judges.

American Idol goes out of its way to NOT spotlight most of the singers who wind up in Hollywood.


25 posted on 01/19/2007 10:56:29 AM PST by AniGrrl (Who am I really? God only knows.)
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To: nmh

I only watch the first few weeks of American Idol in order to witness the reaction of the judges and the slap of reality for the contestants. When there's only good people left, it's boring.


26 posted on 01/19/2007 10:56:38 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: T.Smith

I also think those that are responsible for the pre-judging - the screeners who decide who should go through to Simon/Paula/Randy and who shouldn't - are purposely sending through really bad people, knowing that Simon will be fired up. It makes for good television.


27 posted on 01/19/2007 10:57:43 AM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: elc

Absolutely.


28 posted on 01/19/2007 10:59:04 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: elc
......It makes for good television.

That's true. It's ratings and what the people want to see.

29 posted on 01/19/2007 10:59:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lady lawyer

It is part of the "15 minutes of fame" that everybody feels they are "owed".

Fame is exploitation. If you are willing to be exploited, you may become famous. But you'll have to give up anonymity and privacy. And there is no guaranty that you'll be rich or even able to make money just because you are famous.


30 posted on 01/19/2007 10:59:46 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: linear
I'm not grumpy at all. But to say that he didn't insult Minneapolis is air headed.
31 posted on 01/19/2007 11:00:02 AM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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To: elc

Is there pre-judging? Or do they all go through and these are just the ones who get on the air?


32 posted on 01/19/2007 11:00:31 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A new feud? Rosie and Simon?
And just when the tabloids were looking for something new...

The only complaint I have about the first two episodes was Fox's decision to air the audition of the kid who, to me, had a clear mental disability. The large blonde kid on the second night is the one of whom I speak. While I apprecaited that the judges were not cruel to him, I couldn't watch the audition itself - it made me too sad.

I would like to see a bit more discretion on the part of the producers in terms of who they choose to air from the awful auditions. Someone who is clearly deluded about their own talent or who is looking for a chance to tell Simon off makes for good TV - that is the 'train wreck' that keeps us glued to the audition episodes. On the other hand, airing someone who is clearly 'special', regardless of how polite the judges are to them, is to me a bit outside the lines of good taste. For the record I will say again that I don't think the judges were overly rude and recognized the situation for what it was. But they have hours upon hours of tape - they could have filled that 5 minutes with something else

I do, however, particularly enjoy watching the kids who've never been told no or given an honest assessment of their talent. They whine to the judges, then storm out swearing, then go crying into mommy's arms and she tells them how they will be famous someday. Very few seem to learn anything in the way of a lesson from the judges critiques. The whining is hilarious - [sarcasm]clearly the people responsible for numerous #1 records, millions upon millions of records sold, and breath taking TV ratings know nothing about the business...[/sarcasm] Sheesh.


33 posted on 01/19/2007 11:01:42 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Incorrigible
I only watch the first few weeks of American Idol in order to witness the reaction of the judges and the slap of reality for the contestants. When there's only good people left, it's boring.

It's boring because at that point it becomes about grooming a show pony.

It's like watching sausage being made. They get wardrobe consulation, learn to sing Abba, make a goofy group music video, etc. All so they can become the next homogenized middle of the road performer for the industry to hype.

34 posted on 01/19/2007 11:02:54 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

thank you. I was unable to catch it this week. I love watching them crash & burn. I don't watch much after auditions until there are about 8 left.


35 posted on 01/19/2007 11:03:31 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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To: Vision

Perhaps.

What makes me feel the most air-headed though is discussing a show that has a cultural half-life measured in nanoseconds.


36 posted on 01/19/2007 11:03:54 AM PST by linear (We must act now to conserve the Earth's precious supply of momentum!)
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To: BlueNgold

I hear you. I get embarrassed for people too.

Sometimes it's hard to know who's pulling your leg to get on TV and who is really, as you said, "special."


37 posted on 01/19/2007 11:04:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AniGrrl

I also heard a quote from Simon that went something like: I always knew there were a lot of great singers in America, and this year proved it. He said this year was the best talent collection for the show they have seen.


38 posted on 01/19/2007 11:04:29 AM PST by united1000 ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last " Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: elc

I agree.


39 posted on 01/19/2007 11:05:44 AM PST by united1000 ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last " Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: BlueNgold
The whining is hilarious - [sarcasm]clearly the people responsible for numerous #1 records, millions upon millions of records sold, and breath taking TV ratings know nothing about the business...[/sarcasm] Sheesh.

Brenda Lee tried to get the Beatles signed in 1958 but the industry didn't want rock and roll. Eventually the Beatles were signed to 5 different labels in America before the suits in the States decided that they could make money of this group in 1964.

Just because someone has the top office doesn't mean they have a finger on the public's taste or a performer's potential.

40 posted on 01/19/2007 11:06:34 AM PST by weegee (The Left is worried that '24' will have the same effect as LBJ's 'Daisy' mushroom ad.)
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