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More Insults About the 'North American Conspiracy'
Human Events ^ | 1-5-2007 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 01/05/2007 10:48:25 AM PST by jmc813

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To: Eastbound; Ben Ficklin
"Kelso?

Yes, Kelso.


281 posted on 01/08/2007 8:37:55 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Which TTC are you talking about?"

Can we get back to the Kelo decision, or do want to pass on that? If so, I will understand.

282 posted on 01/08/2007 8:37:58 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Toddsterpatriot
That's him! ;>
283 posted on 01/08/2007 8:40:01 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
I'm not surprised Kelso lost his case. He's not very bright.
284 posted on 01/08/2007 8:40:58 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Eastbound


Are you a union man? In the Featherbedders Union?


285 posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:23 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
"Are you a union man? In the Featherbedders Union?"

It is evident that you are not going to opine on the Kelo decision. But then, your silence is opinion enough for me, and I suspect is opinion enough for everyone else reading this who has an interest in preserving the Union of States.

Go west, young man. Fresh markets for all that snake oil in your wagon.

286 posted on 01/08/2007 9:05:22 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Reread 274. It tells you everything you need to know.

Of course you could add the fact that there are private operators of other toll roads in the US. Did you notice that there are over a 100 private bidders for the PA turnpike.

287 posted on 01/08/2007 9:15:18 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Eastbound
But are you going to deny that the TTC is part of the NAU transportation plan again?

What is the NAU transportation plan?

288 posted on 01/08/2007 9:21:18 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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To: Eastbound
It is evident that you are not going to opine on the Kelo decision.

I think most of FR has opined on the Kelo decision. If you wish to hear those opinions again, why not begin by explaining what Kelo has to do with any of the topics discussed on this thread?

289 posted on 01/08/2007 9:37:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: All; Ben Ficklin

Please ping me if anyone manages to see Ficklin give a straight answer to a straight question. Thanks.


290 posted on 01/08/2007 9:46:54 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: 1rudeboy

Answered in my reply 273.


291 posted on 01/08/2007 9:53:48 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
The taking of private property for public use is covered by the Fifth Amendment. Kelo, the abomination that it is, concerns the taking of private property for private use.
292 posted on 01/08/2007 9:57:59 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Eastbound

Karl Rove hired me to keep you mixed up. He was correct when he told me it would be an easy job.


293 posted on 01/08/2007 9:58:02 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1rudeboy
" . . . the abomination that it is, concerns the taking of private property for private use."

Yes.

294 posted on 01/08/2007 10:05:45 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

But the TTC is not considered "private use." You really need to think this kind of stuff through.


295 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:32 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Five to four. Not exactly a mandate on something so important, eh?

Conservative dissenting justices.

I'll side with the conservatives.

296 posted on 01/08/2007 10:21:00 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

So do I. So what's your point? Do you have one?


297 posted on 01/08/2007 10:22:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"So do I. So what's your point? Do you have one?"

Well, yes!

298 posted on 01/08/2007 10:55:52 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Not from where I sit. Would you consider that you couldn't get Ben Ficklin to respond because you bored him to death?
299 posted on 01/08/2007 10:59:16 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
But the TTC is not considered "private use."

A position that is debatable. It is not really "public use" is it when it merely pits importers against domestic production and transport. Especially since it is evident there is already plenty of infrastructure for transport. This needs to be more fully thought through by you, when you look at the facts as to who really is the beneficiary of the expropriations. There is an ulterior motive for the TTC.

Even the White House has openly acknoweldged as beneficiaries...the Importers of Chinese and East Asian manufactures. [The explicit monetary justification for...and incentivizing the whole project...and diverting around the "spendier" longshoremans' unionized ports in U.S. West Coast states] As against domestic Producers. As against domestic cartage.

So of course, the Import Lobbyists are not for real free trade. Certainly not within the country. They are for misusing governmental authority to abet subsidizing themselves and their interest...the imports. This is why I have often noted the import lobbyists are phoneys. They are no longer, if they have ever been, for free trade.

They are expropriating to abet their segment (imports)...and adding injury to insult...the domestic manufacturing firms and cartage firms are going to be TAXED to support this governmental intrusion on the market.

300 posted on 01/08/2007 11:15:04 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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