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Michael Medved Loses His Cool Over North America Union (Corsi's Response)
Human Events ^ | 1/2/07 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/02/2007 1:38:13 PM PST by Kimberly GG

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To: Xenalyte

Sorry ma'am.


41 posted on 01/02/2007 3:30:26 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Who am I touching awful today?

Man USC de-pants Meatchicken and now you are awfully touching people for no reason...tsk tsk tsk :)
42 posted on 01/02/2007 3:33:53 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

It wasn't my fault, honest! It was an accidental brush and I was getting bumped in a crowd.

DO NOT TURN ME IN.


43 posted on 01/02/2007 3:45:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

LOL


44 posted on 01/02/2007 3:46:49 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Go Bucks!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone

"You consider criticism of a thread that is posted "perfectly timed attacks"?

Have their been any "perfectly timed attacks" not on a thread espousing your conspiracy theory?"

My point exactly. Answered your own question.


45 posted on 01/02/2007 3:49:54 PM PST by Kimberly GG (PATRIOTS MARCH TO "TAKE BACK AMERICA" (www.lframerica.com ))
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To: Kimberly GG

I'm glad I did, because it demonstrates that you are insane.

Here's a clue. Every time you post an insane thread, you'll get a perfectly timed attack on it.

The rest of us think that is normal. You think it's proof of a conspiracy.


46 posted on 01/02/2007 3:53:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

IMO Medved is a good guy. He allows others, with opposing views, to state their case and then begins to graciously and logically tear them a new 5th point of contact. He is, as far as I've listened to him, a calm and polite person who is interesting to listen to. Conservative with libertarian leanings who is not afraid to have "the enemy" on his show to debate an issue. In this he is cordial and not combative; which is unique on this age of "combat talk" radio.


Having said this, I have no idea what his views are on the NAU.


47 posted on 01/02/2007 5:29:02 PM PST by Tainan (New & Improved, just in time for the Christmas and New Years Holidays!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Here are previous examples of this phenomenom:

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005656.html


48 posted on 01/02/2007 8:40:01 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: Dog Gone

"Here's a clue. Every time you post an insane thread, you'll get a perfectly timed attack on it."

Thanks ;) That's exactly what I've been saying all along!

Get a clue yourself Dog...it's just as Corsi described, and your 'code red' moment came with the admission I expected ;) Could have saved me the trouble and just admitted it to begin with.


49 posted on 01/03/2007 1:49:42 AM PST by Kimberly GG (PATRIOTS MARCH TO "TAKE BACK AMERICA" (www.lframerica.com ))
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To: Dog Gone
"even a cursory reading of the Constitution would convince you of that."


I doubt the powers behind this movement care what the Constitution or the populous think or say. That's the crux of the argument. The *NEW* in New World Order. The fact there are people who insist this is a joke, plays right in to the conspiracy. The fact you're so close-minded on this issue, worries me.
50 posted on 01/03/2007 4:20:24 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Excellent rebuttal by Jeromi Corsi and full article is full of detailed information.

It is, indeed. Thanks for posting this.

51 posted on 01/03/2007 7:49:30 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: Kimberly GG
I would appreciate an explanation as to why the original piece on this exact subject, written by Mr. Medved, remains in the News/Activism section of Free Republic

My guess is that your addition of "(Corsi's Response)" might have disqualified you from the News section. Did you ever get a reply from a responsible party?

52 posted on 01/03/2007 7:59:13 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Kimberly GG
....."Serious readers for centuries are alert to recognize that ad hominem attacks generally mask an inability to counter an argument on logical or evidentiary grounds.

Funny to see Corsi use the word evidentiary. I thought he was allergic to evidence?

Toddsterpatriot just provided an example to support Corsi's observation from history.

53 posted on 01/03/2007 8:10:10 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
The less evidence Corsi can find, the more that proves the power of the conspiracy.
54 posted on 01/03/2007 8:14:08 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (There is no cause so right that one cannot find a fool following it.)
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"Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon."
...which is exactly why Corsi is engaging in it here -- equating Medved with leftists pretty much defines an ad hominem attack.
55 posted on 01/03/2007 8:45:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ahmedumbass and the mullahcracy is doomed. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin

The few times I get to catch him on the radio, I've always appreciated how he deals with the liberals -- not like Sean,who cuts them off suggesting (probably correctly) that he can't answer their points so he has to stop them from talking).

Medved will let the liberals fully explain themselves, and then demolish their arguments, leaving them with nothing to say. It's how debate should really take place.

I didn't see Medved's piece as being particularly histrionic, unlike Corsi here.


56 posted on 01/03/2007 8:57:07 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kimberly GG

John O'Neill was a good spokesperson for the Vets for Truth, although one of the less politically known guys should have been used -- they had some really good apolitical guys who I heard speak who spoke very well and would have forced the media to look into "who they were", rather than being able to dismiss them like they did O'Neill.

The biggest liability to the Vets for Truth group was Jerome Corsi, who was easily linked to hateful and crazy ideas and speech, and through that the opponents were able to smear the Vets book by association. It left the supporters of the Vets for Truth having to explain that Corsi simply edited the book, and wasn't involved in actually writing what was in it. Not very helpful at all.


57 posted on 01/03/2007 9:00:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kimberly GG

And I seriously doubt there is a group of Freepers here who would SUPPORT the NAU, which is the real reason nobody is answering your claim. You are waiting for one of the supporters, and there are none.

Most of us don't denounce Corsi because he is attacking something we believe in, but because he is like The Boy who Cried Wolf, only there's never actually a Wolf.


58 posted on 01/03/2007 9:02:05 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kimberly GG

You are missing the point. When you post the thread, and ask that it be put on the sidebar, that alerts every freeper to the existance of your thread.

Then, as we do with EVERY thread of interest, freepers who have an opinion show up, usually immediately, and start commenting.

The only person who is "coordinating" the response is YOU, the person who posted the thread. Posting a thread is basically asking all of us to immediately come and comment.

Oddly, supporters of Corsi also "immediately" show up every time you post a thread about him. That also isn't a conspiracy, although it's surprising you didn't notice it.


59 posted on 01/03/2007 9:07:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The_Eaglet

No, that's not an "ad hominen attack", that's a sarcastic comment.

An "ad hominen" attack is one where you make true statements about your opposition which cast them in a bad light.

It's misuse is based on an assumption of an argument about facts. When arguing over one's interpretations and opinions, commenting on the person's qualifications to make those interpretations and their ability to form correct opinions is actually a rational strategy.

It's why in a court case, the opposing counsel will seek to discredit the witnesses.

A Sarcastic Comment, on the other hand, is one that may or may not have a basis in fact, but is offered to make people laugh by way of ridicule.


60 posted on 01/03/2007 9:12:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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