Boeing, Lufthansa Announce Order for 747-8 Intercontinental

The Boeing Company ^ | December 6, 2006 | The Boeing Company

[NavyCanDo]

Here comes Santa Claus!
Here comes Santa Claus!
And Lufthansa is his name!
Qantus and JAL and all the rest
may soon be doing the same.
Bells are ringing, Boeing is singing;
All is merry and bright.
So buy your stocks and say your prayers,
'Cause Santa Claus comes tonight.

[Yo-Yo]

Yeah, I saw that yesterday. After Emirates canceled their A340 orders, Airbus was looking at closing down the A340 line altogether due to lack of sales.

I'd go "all in" that Lufthansa got a very sweetheart deal on those A340s that were originally slated to go to Emirates as part of their compensation for the A380 delivery delay.

Why else would Lufthansa order A340s in the era of A350s and B787s?

[magellan]

Current Airbus A380 orders stand at 166. Current Boeing 747-8 orders stand at 73. A380 orders are going in the wrong direction (being canceled). The 747-8 orders are increasing.

My guess is sometime in 2008 the 748-8 will surpass the A380 in orders.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

http://www.newairplane.com/747/en-US/multimedia/Video/Video01

[Prophet in the wilderness]

http://www.newairplane.com/747/en-US/multimedia/Video/Video01

[Prophet in the wilderness]

http://www.newairplane.com/747/en-US/multimedia/Video/Video01

[Prophet in the wilderness]

In that link to the new 747-8I , in the video that shows the 747 morphing into the new 747-8I , does it look to you that they changed the wing with more of it swepted back ? and more wing flex ? the tail also look like it's going to get a 787 style make over.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

A fact about the new 747-8I that is getting lost among the buzz and the A-380 is that, once this plane is in service, the 747-8I will be the worlds longest commercial airplane in the world.

[COEXERJ145]

...does it look to you that they changed the wing with more of it swept back ? and more wing flex ? the tail also look like it's going to get a 787 style make over.

Yes, Yes, and Yes. :-)

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Interesting...
When they first developed the 747 back in the 60s, they tested it and it exceeded the structural strength it need.

[magellan]

"In that link to the new 747-8I , in the video that shows the 747 morphing into the new 747-8I , does it look to you that they changed the wing with more of it swepted back ? and more wing flex ? the tail also look like it's going to get a 787 style make over."

The 747 has the highest wing sweep of any subsonic commercial jetliner. I don't think the 747-8 changes the wing sweep, but it does make significant changes to the wing. Obviously, the wing span is increased, and the wingtips are changed. There is a new, simpler flap system. And there are numerous aerodynamic improvements. However, it is not a new wing, just an improved wing. A new wing would cost much more, and require certification as a new airplane, rather than a derivative.

[Paleo Conservative]

In that link to the new 747-8I , in the video that shows the 747 morphing into the new 747-8I , does it look to you that they changed the wing with more of it swepted back ? and more wing flex ? the tail also look like it's going to get a 787 style make over.

The wings have exactly the same sweep as the original 747-100 wings. That's one reason why the 747-8 program was less expensive than the previously proposed 747-500, 600, and 700. All those programs proposed developing new wings with less sweep to improve runway and climb performance and a supercritical airfoil to allow high cruise speeds without the need for as much sweep. The 747-8 wing has been relofted onto the same structure as the 747-400 wing. This means Boeing won't have to go to the expense of building and testing a new wing to destruction. The new airfoil of the 747-8 wing is twisted to change the angle of attack, and it is a supercritical airfoil to improve efficiency and increase fuel storage.

[Paleo Conservative]

The tail is bigger, and it will be able to store more fuel than on the 747-400ER.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

Doesn't the stretch provide for more storage for more fuel ? and the new thickness of the wings provide for more fuel ?

[Prophet in the wilderness]

In the video ( I know we can't go on to much with the video ) doesn't the tail look to you that it is angled back just a little ?
I know one thing, the wings has more flex than the 100s,200s, 300s, 400s 747.
I don't care what the critics and Airbus says about the 747, it still look modern , more modern than the A-380 and more sleek.
Inspite of the design, it's still going to be a NEW PLANE " since it will have new metal, new materials, in other words, the odometer will read ( low mileage ).

[Prophet in the wilderness]

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=7047&print=Y

[Paleo Conservative]

Doesn't the stretch provide for more storage for more fuel ? and the new thickness of the wings provide for more fuel ?

Yes, the extra thickness of the wings allows for more fuel storage while improving aerodynamic performance. It can store more fuel than the 747-400ER without the need for body fuel tanks in the cargo holds. This allows more range and more cargo space. I'm not sure if the center fuel tanks have changed in size.