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QUIETLY, QUIETLY BUILDING THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION
Freedom 21 Santa Cruz ^ | October 5, 2006 | Steven Yates

Posted on 12/02/2006 11:31:59 AM PST by Lorianne

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To: 1rudeboy
There's not a black or white answer and you know it. It looks pretty though. The only way to solve the illegal alien problem is to build an Israeli type fence. I don't give a rats patootie about how the poor are in mexico. I ain't no damned socialist. It's their country, let them fix it.

We have more illegal aliens here now than when nafta was introduced 10+years ago and it was supposed to help them. Scrap the damn thing...it ain't working.

21 posted on 12/02/2006 1:02:35 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: processing please hold

Generally speaking, countries do not sign treaties, or individuals sign contracts, without an element of self-interest. To paint NAFTA as being some sort of social program for Mexico is rather odd, imo.


22 posted on 12/02/2006 1:08:57 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You call them illegal immigrants. I call them illegal aliens. We are at opposite ends, no wonder our beliefs are so different.

Have a good day. Banging my head against a brick wall will give me a headache.

23 posted on 12/02/2006 1:12:28 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: Lorianne

These people think they've bought themselves a ticket to fame and fortune by participating in such a thing. But guess where their ticket is really destined for? I'll give one clue and it's not Heaven...


24 posted on 12/02/2006 1:33:42 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: 1rudeboy

I see what you mean


25 posted on 12/02/2006 1:44:12 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
That visionary, Ronald Reagan, on Nov. 13, 1979 in his announcement to seek the presidency of the US laid out a concept of the North American Accord. This accord he believed would help the US stop thinking of its nearest neighbors as foreigners and provide for an environment whereby the people's commerce would flow more freely across their present borders than they do today.

Fulfillment of his vision seems to becoming more and more evident with each passing decade.
26 posted on 12/02/2006 2:11:56 PM PST by deport
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To: processing please hold
"......what do ya think about the article?"

You only have to get to the second paragraph and events in Banff and you are back the same unanswered question.

Who was the original source of the story?

WND won't say. Freepers won't say. Nobody wants to admit the source.

What is the point of reading beyond that second paragraph?

27 posted on 12/02/2006 3:11:30 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: processing please hold

I think you'll find this interesting.


http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=2315

Nationwide Candidates Win by Fighting for New Trade Policies, Opposing NAFTA Model; No Fair Trader Loses, 36 “Free” Trade Seats Flip

Trade Helped Put Democrats Over Top, Emerges as National Electoral Issue with More Than 25 Paid Ads and 115 Races Using Trade as Differentiator, Public Citizen Report Shows; Exit Polls Show Voters’ Economic Anxiety a Top Concern

WASHINGTON, D.C. – From Florida to Hawaii and parts in between, pro-fair trade challengers Tuesday beat anti-fair trade incumbents, according to a report on the 2006 midterm results conducted by Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch division. Incumbents who had voted for the U.S. trade status quo of NAFTA, WTO and Fast Track were replaced by those rejecting these failed policies and advocating improvement with 36 congressional seats (seven Senate and 29 House) being won by proponents of fair trade, and perhaps as high as 44 total congressional seats once all election results are in.

“This election changed the composition of Congress on trade to more closely represent U.S. public opinion. Congress needs a system for negotiating U.S. trade agreements – with a steering wheel and emergency brakes on negotiators – that delivers on the public’s expectations for a new trade policy that wins for American workers and farmers and does not harm the environment or food safety,” said Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch division.

Trade and off-shoring were wedge issues actively used in 115 congressional campaigns nationwide with more than 25 paid campaign ads. Election exit polls conducted by CNN and The New York Times revealed that Americans’ anxiety about the economy and job security trumped Iraq war concerns.

“This election evaporated whatever doubts remained that trade was a politically powerful issue,” Wallach said. “Given the national sweep of fair trade winners and the key races in which trade played a big role, trade and globalization issues will have major saliency in the 2008 presidential election and beyond.”

No incumbent fair trader was beaten by a “free trader.” The only Democratic incumbents seeking higher office who were defeated were anti-fair trade Rep. Harold Ford, Jr., running for Tennessee’s open Senate seat, and Rep. Jim Davis, running for Florida’s open governor slot. Despite the Democratic sweep, Republican Rep. Rob Simmons (CT-2), who opposed Fast Track, CAFTA and the Oman FTA, is in a too-close-to-call race despite being listed for months as a likely loser.

Many GOP anti-fair trade leaders were defeated in surprise upsets: Clay Shaw (R-Fla.) the Ways and Means Trade Subcommittee chair, and Ways and Means members Nancy Johnson (R-Conn.), Chris Chocola (R-Ind.), Melissa Hart (R-Penn.) and J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.). Each was replaced by a fair trader: FL-22 Ron Klein; CT-5 Chris Murphy; IN-2 Joe Donnelly; PA-4 Jason Altmire; and AZ-5 Harry Mitchell.

“The election results show that campaigning for a new trade policy that benefits American workers and farmers is a winner,” said Todd Tucker, research director for Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. “Failure to disassociate from the NAFTA-WTO status quo and its trade deficits and job losses was a liability, including in traditionally ‘free trade’ states.(snip)


28 posted on 12/02/2006 4:18:56 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Lorianne

I dont think this is stoppable anymore if it ever was stoppable. I dont think it will be a political merger. It might end up there though. There will be open or near open borders and Mexicans and/or latin americans will be the vast majority of our new citizens. Political merger (unlikely) or not a line can be drawn right here in history with before and after being two different Americas.


29 posted on 12/02/2006 5:39:46 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

I agree. We can't use medieval thinking in terms of borders anymore. We have to come up with a new way.


30 posted on 12/02/2006 6:13:03 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
You might have thought there was approval of the idea in my post. There wasnt. Just resignation.
31 posted on 12/02/2006 6:28:50 PM PST by mthom
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To: deport

bttt


32 posted on 12/02/2006 7:25:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 1rudeboy

"Do you have anything in your deck of cards that does not involve impugning my motives? Try some facts. Step up."

It would seem to me that you, sir, went right to the Nazi accusations. It's a little hypocritical to suggest that he's impugning your motives while you impugn his.


33 posted on 12/02/2006 8:08:00 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: processing please hold

"Careful of the knives some FROBL are gonna be hurling at your back."

Amazing, isn't it...the extent to which they will go, the dedication, organization, and almost immediate reaction, every single time, on every single related thread, in defense of something they claim to be 'nonexistent' and little more than 'conspiracy' by 'tinfoil' hat wearers.

And clearly no one is fooled by their antics into believing that they don't support the OBL agenda, when they do. Just takes a bit of prodding to get them to admit it. Wonder what keeps them from doing so to begin with?


34 posted on 12/03/2006 4:10:33 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Hunter/Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: Lorianne; All

by Arizona Senator Karen S. Johnson - District 18

November 20, 2006

I just returned from a week in Washington, D.C., with a group of concerned women where we learned about the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), also known as “The North American Union.” This partnership was agreed upon at a private meeting held in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005, between then-President of Mexico, Vicente Fox; U.S. President George Bush; and then-Prime Minister Paul Martin of Canada. The SPP is an agreement to merge our United States of America with Mexico and Canada.

I am outraged about what the Bush administration is doing with this partnership behind Congress’s back. (See www.spp.gov)

With virtually no mention in the mainstream media and no oversight from Congress, Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez is pushing forward, through his department, the “working groups” that are currently implementing this plan. Government bureaucrats and business leaders are “harmonizing and integrating” our laws with Mexico and Canada on a broad range of issues such as E-Commerce, Transportation, Environment, Health, Agriculture, Financial Services, and National Security just to mention a few. Do we want our laws “harmonized” with Socialist Canada and corrupt Mexico?

If you are concerned about terrorism in our country, just remember that enlarging our borders, merging our security functions with one of the most corrupt nations on earth (Mexico), and giving up sovereignty and constitutional protections does NOT make us safer.

Dr. Jerome Corsi, a Harvard Professor, who has spent months researching this issue was recently able through a Freedom of Information request to obtain about 1,000 pages on SPP/North American Union, which clearly reveal that the Bush administration is running a “shadow government” with Mexico and Canada in which unelected bureaucrats are crafting a broad range of policy changes. The SPP is truly rewriting U.S. administrative law, all without Congressional oversight or public disclosure.

The government watchdog organization, Judicial Watch, obtained many of the same documents that Dr. Corsi has received, including the organizational chart and a listing of trilateral Mexican, Canadian, and U.S. administrative officers who report on multiple, cabinet-level “working groups.”

The SPP.gov web site has now put up a “Myth vs. Fact” document posted for public relations purposes to begin the “whitewash” in which they think they can hoodwink the American public. One of the ways the administration has been able to go around Congress is by not having the three countries sign a treaty or “law” on SPP. I want to know -- and the American public should demand to know – where does the Bush administration get the congressional authorization to invite two foreign nations to the table to rewrite U.S. law?

The Bush administration is trying to create the infrastructure for a new regional North American government in stealth fashion, under the radar and out of public view. Congress has unequivocally been asleep at the wheel.

It is incredible but, if this template is followed, just four years from now the United States may cease to exist as an independent nation. Its laws, rules and regulations – including all freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution – will be subject to review and nullification by the

North American Union’s governing body (unelected). There will no longer be a Canadian or Mexican border. Transnational transportation corridors will crisscross the United States delivering the cheapest goods possible from China and Vietnam with Mexican truckers who will work for a pittance of what our U.S. truckers earn. Thousands of middle-class jobs will be wiped out, and the U.S. will become nothing more than a province in an emerging North American superstate.

The American people have got to be alerted and we must contact our members of Congress to put a stop to this. Most Representatives and Senators are largely unaware of the SPP/North American Union. I am certain that an aroused and deeply concerned electorate would have little trouble gaining support to block what is planned and retain our nation’s hard-won independence. Please help stop this insane move towards a North American Union.

Senator Karen S. Johnson - District 18

602-926-3160 (office)

480-734-1954 (cell)

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Feature-Article.htm?InfoNo=011920&From=News


35 posted on 12/03/2006 4:15:24 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Hunter/Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: Lorianne; mthom

"I agree. We can't use medieval thinking in terms of borders anymore. We have to come up with a new way."


Part of the problem, imo, is that many of our lawmakers are being 'kept in the dark' and are unaware of this issue. See my post above. A grassroots effort needs to be made, so that every lawmaker, nationwide, is aware of what is happening and what is intended to be a done deal if action is not taken immediately to stop the OBL. I plan to send a copy of Johnsons letter to every Senator, Congressman, and Mayor in my state of Ohio.


36 posted on 12/03/2006 4:20:17 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Hunter/Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: deport
That visionary, Ronald Reagan, on Nov. 13, 1979 in his announcement to seek the presidency of the US laid out a concept of the North American Accord. This accord he believed would help the US stop thinking of its nearest neighbors as foreigners and provide for an environment whereby the people's commerce would flow more freely across their present borders than they do today. ........... Fulfillment of his vision seems to becoming more and more evident with each passing decade.

I don't think S.P.P. is what Ronald Reagan had in mind.

But..... I'm no mind reader.

;-)

37 posted on 12/03/2006 4:24:32 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Please re-read comment #2, and then my #8, and get back to me.


38 posted on 12/03/2006 4:30:36 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: WatchingInAmazement; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama; nopardons
FALSE© rule in play at #28.
39 posted on 12/03/2006 4:34:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Kimberly GG

Responses generated by a conspiracy-related (for lack of a better term) thread are evidence of the conspiracy. Brilliant!


40 posted on 12/03/2006 4:39:31 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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