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London Stock Trader Urges Move to 'AMERO'
World Net Daily ^ | 11/28/06 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/28/2006 6:10:53 AM PST by Kimberly GG

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To: tmp02
...also they try to DISTRACT with "these people are not living in the real world". It was a good thing that when the ride of Paul Revere occurred, there were people that did not think that they were 'kooks' so that they could prepare for the British.

That is by far the most idiotic analogy I've ever heard on Free Republic, and that's up against some stiff competition.

You cannot sneak up a monetary change like this in the dead of night. Billions had to be spent preparing people in Europe for it - changing everything from cash registers, ATM machines, to sophisticated systems of accounting. It is not something that can be done in the dead of night or without warning. But you don't think to this level of detail; you seize hold of some paranoid nutjob's meanderings and take it to heart. There are plenty of genuine things to be afraid of in this world - Islamic terrorism, the far left, Hillary Clinton - this is not one of them. By continuing in this paranoid fantasy you're breathing life and wasting energy on a mirage when there are real problems to be solved.

Think about it, and do THINK before you reply.

Ivan

81 posted on 11/28/2006 9:19:40 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Any takers....which will happen first, the thread will be moved to 'Chat', cuekookeymusic will be added as a keyword, or Previs will be chalked up as (yet another) a stooge for the conspiracy theorists, who don't want the topic discussed?

The Mods are CFR, pass it on.

82 posted on 11/28/2006 9:19:42 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tmp02

I know MadIvan. MadIvan is no communist, but he is literate.


83 posted on 11/28/2006 9:21:02 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: MadIvan

Show me facts. I have seen none from you. This article is based on what we can see is mostly fact. And that is "Amero". I have seen no other monetary devise mentioned. There is a lot of dots that need some attention to.


84 posted on 11/28/2006 9:23:46 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02
Did you read my post 37 which had a paper discussing this topic from the Bank of Canada? It was also linked. They said it is not happening because America doesn't want it, and totally refuses to give up control of their currency.

That is the beginning, the middle and the end of it.

Now either you're going to accept it or you're going to continue to be mindless.

Ivan

85 posted on 11/28/2006 9:26:09 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
Strange, maybe. But here is an article where he is quoted:
""The market is going to go higher. The first hour should see very heavy volume with elation over the progress that's been made with regard to Baghdad," Steve Previs, a U.S. share trader at Jefferies International in London told Reuters "
86 posted on 11/28/2006 9:26:22 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: tmp02
I'll repeat it, since I dare say going backwards in a thread is probably too challenging for you:

LINK - BANK OF CANADA

Though there are many other kinds of commodity convertibility, these are, as noted earlier (footnote 3) complicated and hence hard to explain to the public at large. That is one reason why all recent proposals for reforming Canada's monetary order that envisage replacing inflation targets with a system underpinned by convertibility rest, not on a commodity of any sort, but on either a brand new North American currency or the U.S. dollar. Given the Americans' total lack of interest in giving up a shred of control over their own currency, let alone abandoning it for something else, the only proposals among these that are practically possible are those involving either the outright unilateral adoption by Canada of the U.S. dollar as its currency, or the creation of a new Canadian currency linked to the U.S. dollar by way of a currency board.

Read it. Learn. Let the facts penetrate the battleship armour thickness of your skull. I cannot force you not to be stupid, but I damn well will try.

Ivan

87 posted on 11/28/2006 9:29:14 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Now that I've noticed, you are lucky the thread didn't get pulled for being a duplicate. Maybe the Mods are afraid doing so would set off the kook-alarm.


88 posted on 11/28/2006 9:30:13 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: MadIvan

This is what your #37 said:


To: hedgetrimmer
I actually did some searching about the Amero. Here is what the Bank of Canada has to say:

LINK

Though there are many other kinds of commodity convertibility, these are, as noted earlier (footnote 3) complicated and hence hard to explain to the public at large. That is one reason why all recent proposals for reforming Canada's monetary order that envisage replacing inflation targets with a system underpinned by convertibility rest, not on a commodity of any sort, but on either a brand new North American currency or the U.S. dollar. Given the Americans' total lack of interest in giving up a shred of control over their own currency, let alone abandoning it for something else, the only proposals among these that are practically possible are those involving either the outright unilateral adoption by Canada of the U.S. dollar as its currency, or the creation of a new Canadian currency linked to the U.S. dollar by way of a currency board.

Kooks like you can "talk to the hand".


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What is the context, date, reader, and link of this document? Please post.

This piece that you posted in #37 is ambiguous at best.


89 posted on 11/28/2006 9:30:40 AM PST by tmp02
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To: Tench_Coxe
He's just a trader according to your link. Not even on the board. He was likely just spouting off on CNBC, something which has apparently been blown out of all proportion into a fully fledged conspiracy.

Interesting!

Ivan

90 posted on 11/28/2006 9:30:40 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

My comment on the other thread whether this trader holds a short position on the dollar. [chuckle]


91 posted on 11/28/2006 9:34:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: tmp02
Hello, hello, anyone home? You wanted a link - well, you moron, it was marked with the big word called "LINK"!

I've repeated it, and marked the salient portion in red. I can't make it any clearer than that - it says America is not interested. Or do they have to use words of six letters or less for you to understand them?

Ivan

92 posted on 11/28/2006 9:34:23 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: tmp02
I'll repeat the salient portion of the paragraph in big bold letters, so someone of your limited intelligence can understand them:

Given the Americans' total lack of interest in giving up a shred of control over their own currency, let alone abandoning it for something else

Now, is that clear? Do you understand? Learning yet? Or do you have to have a nurse come wipe the drool from the corners of your mouth every 10 minutes?

Ivan

93 posted on 11/28/2006 9:35:58 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Obviously you don't think this is the case. So, what evidence can you point to over the past five years that this isn't the goal of Washington, Mexico City, and Ottawa?

"We live in the status quo" really isn't a valid argument given the radical Hispanicization of Florida, Texas, Arizona, and California that has already taken place - not to mention the lack of any action to stem the flow of illegal immigrants to the United States.


94 posted on 11/28/2006 9:39:22 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: MadIvan
Yeah, but the date of that article was from 2003. He could have moved up since then.
Even if he is now a VP, he isn't necessarily going to be listed.

Don't mind me. This was just an excercise to determine the nature of the mysterious Mr. Previs. Apparently he is a real person, and does work for Jefferies International, Ltd. .

Now whether the 'Amero' is something going or not--I'm sure its wishful thinking for some folks, but Bush and Co. just can't pop up one day and say: Well, we're all using a new currency now!
But just to have some conspiracy fun---what would happen if other parties decided to divest themselves of dollar holdings, and as a consequence, devalue the dollar (the devaluation is already happening, but a divestment over a short term could push a crisis)? Now, how would an argument be made to control such devaluation, especially since the relatively interest rate in the US gives the Feds not so much freedom to maneuver?

95 posted on 11/28/2006 9:39:39 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

relatively == relatively low


96 posted on 11/28/2006 9:40:13 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: PetroniusMaximus
... and the American people are the last to know about it.

Damn. I thought it was junk mail.

97 posted on 11/28/2006 9:41:28 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: Kimberly GG
I was thinking that adding in the peso would devalue the currency, but given the current exchange rates, the dollar may actually be boosted.

</sarcasm...sort of>

98 posted on 11/28/2006 9:43:38 AM PST by adam_smith_76
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To: MadIvan; tmp02

Back to your corners. Both of you.


99 posted on 11/28/2006 9:44:02 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: MadIvan

You didn't read the footnote 3 did you? These are all theories and 'schemes' that were analyzed and where not a part of the Gold Standard or metallic standard. "Angela Redish has reminded me, some work goes so far as to speculate about the potential stability of systems with no such anchor at all". I would speculate that "Amero" could be a viable "anchor". Here is the footnote:

3. The free-banking literature contains many ingenious schemes for convertibility anchors that go far beyond simple metallic standards, such as those based on gold and silver. As Angela Redish has reminded me, some work goes so far as to speculate about the potential stability of systems with no such anchor at all. Selgin and White (1994) survey this material, which there is no space to discuss here, with admirable clarity. Suffice it to say that I share their skepticism about the viability of systems that lack any convertibility anchor, and that to it I add a further personal judgment: namely, that, to be politically durable, monetary policy arrangements need to be kept simple, and that some of the more complex schemes that have appeared in the free-banking tradition, though apparently theoretically viable, would probably fail this test in practice.


Reading is good for the soul.


100 posted on 11/28/2006 9:51:21 AM PST by tmp02
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