Rick Warren disciples: Where are you?

WorldNetDaily ^ | November 21, 2006 | Joseph Farah

[TommyDale]

Exactly. The Warren-following "seeker sensitive" churches only want those infant Christians. Any mature Christian who knows anything or who has the gift of discernment will reject the "Purpose Drivel", and will in turn be rejected by the leaders of the church. They will eventually be pushed out one way or another. I know resistant leaders who found out they had been replaced by reading it in the Sunday Bulletin.

[Rightly Biased]

Purpose Driven Purple Haze

[ShandaLear]

Don't be silly, one statement does not lead to the other.

[Rightly Biased]

Purpose Driven Obama

[call meVeronica]

Journalism school might teach paragraphs, but if you write using them in mainstream society. Most people won't get past the second sentence.

[TommyDale]

But they told me they loved Christians!"

[One_who_hopes_to_know]

Judge not........

To showme ...
It seems you are missing a major point. Rick Warren has judged. By travelling to Syria on a trip sponsored by the Syrian government and then proclaiming while there he found no persecution, he implicitly judged the Syrian regime to be clean.

[GourmetDan]

"Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction.

2 Timothy 4:2

[L,TOWM]

"XXXXXXXX".

Wrong answer, try again please.

I might suggest that since "the purpose driven life" is little more than 70's self help dressed up with a few out of context passages from some extermely questionable transalations of God's Word, that the neighborhood you want to look in is close to the:

"Since it is all about me and my purpose and my life, why should I lift a finger to defend my guru, er, pastor? Or anyone else?"

land of ear tickling that passes for the modern american "Christianity".

[GourmetDan]

I figured my remark must have hit close to home.

"Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you."

Proverbs 9:8

[Taliesan]

PDL was a pretty good book. Sound basic Christianity. Rick Warren is not perfect, of course, and has said some stupid things lately.

So let's tar and feather him and "demand an apology".

Or just grow up.

[GourmetDan]

"If they are looking for Christianity "lite" (not genuine faith but a shallow substitute that makes them "feel good" about themselves - mostly about continuing to live in sin) then it is the duty of mature Christians to attempt to reach them, show them the way to "Grow in Christ" and help move from their substitute version of Christianity to the "real deal."

You got it. Unfortunately, we are in the days of 2 Timothy 4:2-3.

"Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction."

"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

[TommyDale]

"Sound basic Christianity."

Really? LOL!

[showme_the_Glory]

Burn all concordances, study guides, allegories, or anything other than the original scrolls and anyone who may read them?

[ChocChipCookie]

I don't think this is a matter of whether or not Rick Warren is "perfect". I'm concerned about his lack of judgment and a seeming desire to get good press from the MSM AKA "the world". Franklin Graham travels to dangerous parts of the world in order to see that churches are built, or re-built. Warren goes to countries that are, basically, at war with the U.S. and for what purpose? Not to visit with Syrian Christians and learn their plight first-hand but to hobnob with the very government leaders who oppress these Christians while providing cover for terrorists. I'm trying to be fair in my assessment of Rick, but he's making it pretty hard. I'm very interested in what he has to say after going to North Korea.

[GourmetDan]

Your foolishness is amazing.

Congratulations.

[TommyDale]

I think his North Korean trip was cancelled, likely by our State Department.

[Rightly Biased]

dribble is not drivel is it? both are about the same. that'll teach me to be a smart butt.

[outinyellowdogcountry]

"Is that a non sequitur or just a silly notion?

If that were true in the sense it seems to be meant in . . .

then . . .

BURN ALL THE CHRISTIAN VIDEOS AND SERMON TAPES. BURN ALL THE CHRISTIAN BOOKS. BURN ALL THE FLANNEL GRAPH ILLUSTRATIONS. BURN ALL THE CHRISTIAN MOVIES. TAR AND FEATHER ANY PREACHER WHO DOES ANYTHING BEYOND READING SCRIPTURE VERBATIM AND ONLY. CANCEL ALL RELIGIOUS RADIO AND TV PROGRAMMING. BURN ALL THE CHRISTIAN CD'S. . . .

sigh."

So you think all these things are necessary for a more intimate relationship with the Lord? Sigh.

Those things could help or could hurt because there is the original source that everything should reflect or you are off track. The Word and the centrality of the Gospel. People keep trying to re-interpret the message.

[cyclotic]

I read PDL but didn't buy the book. I disagree with much of what Rick Warren and the mega-church, mega-pastor culture espouses.

I did read his earlier book called the purpose drive church. I belong to a small, newly formed church and though I might get some pointers. He had some decent ideas but nothing earth shattering.

What I cannot stand is when I hear of educated, trained American preachers who get his weekly sermon by e-mail so they can stand on a pulpit and read someone else's sermon.

I can understand it when it is some guy in the jungle of Papua New Ginuea who has no education but has a love for the Lord and a yearning to preach, but not for anyone else.