Posted on 11/21/2006 5:49:44 AM PST by TommyDale
I don't suppose I should be still shocked at the venom "in the name of God" . . . but I still am.
As Pastor says . . . God must wish He'd redeemed monkies.
Don't tell me truth that I don't want to hear lest I label it 'venom' in favor of more appealing words.
This is the foundation of the 'itching ears' gospel.
Haven't noticed a lot of TRUTH against JW.
In any case, God will be the judge of him and all of us
AND
of what was true and not true that we shared out of our biases, pride, attitudes, stubbornness, vanity, or whatever else.
I notice that you left out the Scriptures...again.
The pharisees had the Scriptures memorized.
Jesus was underwhelmed, unimpressed, unmoved by their quoting of same.
I feel similarly on this thread.
The Pharisees distorted the Scriptures to enhance their own power and prestige.
Matthew 23:25, "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence."
Jesus called them snakes and vipers.
Matthew 23:33, "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"
I feel similarly on this thread.
You don't know me at all, Dan. So I'm not taking your unkind remarks seriously.
Dan,
I know Mary very well and your comments are presumptuous and judgemental. You should repent of your smarmy self righteous attitude because your discernment is wrong.
Thanks, Quix. I come from a charismatic, spirit-filled perspective, not a fundamental christian one. I've been there and done that, having been saved in a Baptist church where I attended a few years. I learned much there but the Holy Spirit was not allowed to operate. I belong to a Church where the Word is preached and the Holy Spirit is allowed to function. I am grateful to Joel Osteen's ministry because my son and his wife watched him often and came back to church because of it. His sermons have blessed me. I'm not saying he's perfect (because he's human) but he has a good heart and I believe he's pretty sound.
Much agree. thanks.
Glad your discernment is sharp and fitting!
Thanks, DV. I appreciate your confidence. Folks like you and Quix and other Christian friends are one reason I stay on FR. Bless you. Mxxx
Well, you have my e-mail address, so any time you want to 'talk' you know where to find me. Have a wonderful Christmas season. Love, Mxxx
Thanks for this. I do truly hope that people are starting to see this wolf in the fold for what he is. Theological brother to Jim Wallis and Robert Schuller.
Hang in there Dan... you're on track.
I'll bet Jesus did too.
Mary, I think Joel is probably a nice guy. Too bad the Christian life isn't about 'niceness' on the outside. Being a preacher is about preaching the truth of the gospel (not the way to have a more happy life, which may or may NOT come with true salvation - case in point muslims who convert to Christ and are then sentenced to death) in season and out of season, and not just giving people what attracts the biggest crowd.
Narrow is the way, and few there be that find it. Jesus said that, and no preacher can change what he has said to be true, no matter how big a crowd he gathers.
BTW, much of the Word-faith/spirit-filled movement is devoid of the spirit also, and just as controlling and oppressive as the 'spiritually dead' churches they lambaste.
He always uses scripture verses in his sermons and has a salvation call at the end of every program. He may not be a fire and brimstone kind of preacher, but we have lots of those. He has his place in the body of Christ. I admire his firm stand where it comes to family life, etc. He gets it.
As The Living Word
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