This is a mystery for the Hardly Boys!
THE CASE OF THE MISSING DENT SLAVES.
Posted on 11/21/2006 5:23:06 AM PST by SJackson
face it, lincoln was as vicious a racist as existed in his time.
further, after the war he planned to DEPORT all the Blacks to Africa & "drive from our dominions or EXTERMINATE to the last one" all of the Americans Indians in the country! (nice guy, huh??)
free dixie,sw
had the private citizens that wrote those papers chosen instead to write "Mary Had a Little Lamb", the two works would have been exactly as important as the other to an understanding of the causes of the WBTS.
i personally know of NO scholar, other than the most extreme radical fringe of the REVISIONIST School, that would SERIOUSLY take the position that those "declarations" are EVEN important, much less proof of anything.
the ONLY main causes of the war were:
a. for the Union: PRESERVING the union &
b. for the Southerners: FREEDOM for dixie.
in 1860, i seriously doubt that 25,ooo people in ALL of the USA cared about "slavery" or the "plight of the slaves" except those FEW percent of persons who actually OWNED slaves. AFTER the war, the unionists SAID that the war was a "cruisade aginst slavery". that's called SELF-righteousness & SELF-serving BILGE!
free dixie,sw
had the private citizens that wrote those papers chosen instead to write "Mary Had a Little Lamb", the two works would have been exactly as important as the other to an understanding of the causes of the WBTS.
i personally know of NO scholar, other than the most extreme radical fringe of the REVISIONIST School, that would SERIOUSLY take the position that those "declarations" are EVEN important, much less proof of anything.
the ONLY main causes of the war were:
a. for the Union: PRESERVING the union &
b. for the Southerners: FREEDOM for dixie.
in 1860, i seriously doubt that 25,ooo people in ALL of the USA cared about "slavery" or the "plight of the slaves" except those FEW percent of persons who actually OWNED slaves. AFTER the war, the unionists SAID that the war was a "crusade against slavery". that's called SELF-righteousness & SELF-serving BILGE!
free dixie,sw
almost NOBODY else, north or south cared.
free dixie,sw
WHEN (i expect about 2010-2012 AND the Univ of Chicago to follow within about 2-4 years) Southern IL Univ puts their entire library on the net,you point MIGHT be valid. but right now in 11/06 , you are completely WRONG.
free dixie,sw
Until when? Missouri outlawed slavery in January 1865. Where were they between then and December?
Well, if YOU don't, why should anybody else? Don't make me do YOUR FREAKING HOMEWORK. You are the one trying to prove the point.
Yeah, well if you have volume, issue and page# then if I feel in the mood, the next time I am at the university library archives for some other reason, maybe I'll look it up, unless I forget.
If YOU are going to cite some article not easily available, it is YOUR responsibility to provide QUOTES and CONTEXT. Don't tell OTHER PEOPLE to go look up YOUR CITATIONS. YOU want to PROVE SOMETHING, YOU LOOK IT UP.
This is a mystery for the Hardly Boys!
THE CASE OF THE MISSING DENT SLAVES.
Probably? Suddenly the issue doesn't seem so cut and dried. Missouri ended slavery on January 11 through an amendment to its constitution passed by a Constitutional convention, so legally she could not keep slaves in that state. If the quote is accurate then how did the accomplish that?
Here's something that might help
www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Wirz/Wirz.htm
Thanks!
I don't know if it will be any help
No precedent had been set becaus nobody have ever seceded before. Secession wasn't threatened by the Hartford Convention, it had not been seriously attempted by South Carolina. There was no precedent for it.
You don't just stop slavery in a nation overnight, you phase it out. I would've compensated the south, dispensed with the tariffs and created immigration initiatives whereby immigrant workers could have basically a free ride to the south and incentives to work the hard stuff (and let's be frank, immigrants in this country at that time pretty much built everything after slavery ended).
Three problems with that plan. The first is that there was absolutely no desire in the south to end slavery, compensated or otherwise. The second is that take away tariffs and you take away government funding, so you would have to tax something else. Add to that the fact that tariffs weren't that big a burden on the South to begin with. Finally, you've phased out slavery an dbrought in all those immigrants to do the work. What are the former slaves supposed to be doing?
Is that so hard? But nope, Lincoln had go the route of six million dead Americans in today's numbers. Holy friggin' crap. My only regret about Booth blowing his head off is that he didn't do it in 1859.
Let me point out that it was the south that initiated the war, not the North.
Oh go ahead, ask him for the title of that German book he mentioned. This should be good.
Here's more
www.geocities.com/confederate_cause/thecause-secession3.htm
www.geocities.com/cmp_csa/Defense_of_Wirz.html
Geben Sie mir den Titel, und sagen Sie mir pünktlich wo ich das Buch bestehen möchte. Ja sicher würden die Deutsche ihn verteidigen, er war ein Deutsch-sprechender Hund.
Hope the web sites where of some help to you
So no state legislatures voted to secede? They really stayed in the Union for nothing? OMG the whole freaking war was a mistake!!
Where is that "useless war" Thomas Nast sketch you posted?
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