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'Go Ahead, Put Marks on Me' (GMA Interview w/Kim - DukeLax Ping
ABC News ^ | October 30, 2006 | CHRIS FRANCESCANI and EAMON McNIFF

Posted on 10/30/2006 3:04:46 AM PST by abb

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To: maggief
But District Court Judge Debra Sasser said Monday that the prosecutor never established during a brief trial that the alleged assault occurred in Wake County.

Unless the bar was right on a county line and there was some uncertainty as to the exact location of the assault, why wouldn't county jurisdictional boundaries be something of which a court could simply take judicial notice? Surely there are official maps, are there not?

181 posted on 10/30/2006 4:05:35 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: All

updated...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061030/ap_on_sp_co_ne/duke_lacrosse_13
Duke lacrosse prosecutor standing firm

By AARON BEARD, Associated Press Writer 42 minutes ago

The prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse rape case has heard the criticism from experts and armchair lawyers, and said Monday he is comfortable with nearly all the decisions he has made and confident about taking the case to trial.

"I think that I have a responsibility to prosecute this case," District Attorney Mike Nifong said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I think that really nothing about my view of the case and my view of how the case ultimately needs to be handled has been affected by any of the things that have occurred."

Nifong, running for election against two challengers who have attacked his handling of the case, obtained an indictment against three athletes accused of raping a stripper at a team party in March. They have strongly declared their innocence.

In the early days of the case, Nifong granted numerous newspaper and TV interviews, at one point calling the players "hooligans" and declaring that DNA would identify the guilty. DNA failed to connect the players to the accuser.

Nifong said Monday that granting so many interviews was his only regret.

"You do the best you can based on what you have," he said. "You can always second-guess an investigation."

Nifong's comments angered defense attorney Joseph Cheshire, who represents one of the players who has been charged, David Evans. Cheshire said Nifong's belief he "wouldn't look back and do any of that differently is astounding."

"I don't think that you could find any person educated in the law who would not second-guess many things that Mr. Nifong has done in this case," he said.

The latest questions about Nifong's handling of the case came last week, after he said he and his staff have yet to interview the accuser about the facts of the case, leaving that work to police. He said Monday his responsibility is to direct the investigation, not conduct it.

Experts differed on the wisdom of Nifong's decision.

Former Denver prosecutor Norm Early, who now works with the National District Attorneys Association, said: "It's not standard to talk to the victim in every case. The police department generally has a conversation with the victim and the law enforcement relays that information to the district attorney."

But for a case generating as much public scrutiny with such strong claims of innocence from the defense, it makes sense to have a prosecutor involved, said Yale University law professor Ronald Sullivan Jr.

"Those claims of factual innocence alone should trigger some duty in the prosecutor's office to evaluate the merits of this case," he said.

Nifong declined to comment on an interview, aired by ABC on Monday, with Kim Roberts, a second stripper at the party. Roberts said the accuser was clearly impaired and "talking crazy" after they left the party and drove to a grocery store.

Roberts said she was unable to get the accuser to leave her car, and pushed on the woman's arm and leg to try to force her out. Roberts quoted the accuser as saying: "Go ahead, go ahead. Put marks on me. Go ahead. That's what I want. Go ahead."

"And it chilled me to the bone," Roberts said.

Roberts said she is worried such detail will lead people to make assumptions about what happened at the party.

"It's going to solidify their opinions so much, that they're not going to want to hear the other aspects of the case, which I think are just as important," she said. "It's going to make people not listen to any other part of the story."


182 posted on 10/30/2006 4:22:41 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: supercat

I'm sure the cook will now have help from the NAACP legal defense fund, which helps fight such blatant examples of police prejudice and cover-up (this is worse than anything the LAPD did);

also from the US Justice Dept. Civil Rights Division, which will leap at the chance to tear this to pieces;

also from the black press;

and from Jesse, who will have a few choice words on the subject.

(Does anyone think I'm wrong??)


183 posted on 10/30/2006 4:26:10 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: JLS; supercat; maggief
"Is the bar one that strattles the county line and there is some question about who was in what county?"

Blinco's is nowhere near the county line, which is miles from there. This was deliberately screwed up in court by the Wake County DA's office as a "professional courtesy", just as the Raleigh Police Department never charged the Durham officer in his accident.

184 posted on 10/30/2006 4:37:45 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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BARF ALERT! More bullsh!t from the Fonger...

http://www.heraldsun.com/state/6-783249.html
AP Interview: Mike Nifong on the Duke lacrosse rape case

By The Associated Press
October 30, 2006 6:09 pm

DURHAM, N.C. -- In an interview Monday with The Associated Press, District Attorney Mike Nifong talked at length about the Duke lacrosse rape case, how he's handled the prosecution and his upcoming election. Here are some excerpts of the interview:

ON THE CASE:

"I think that I have a responsibility to prosecute this case. I think that really nothing about my view of the case and my view of how the case ultimately needs to be handled has been affected by any of the things that have occurred."

"You can make the case go away pretty easily. Anybody could. The next D.A., or me if I were so inclined. You can do it with the stroke of a pen. But that does nothing to address the underlying divisions that have been revealed. My personal feeling is the first step to addressing those divisions is addressing this case. That is not the kind of thing that you can really assign to somebody else and say, 'You go do this for me. The future of Durham's in the balance and I don't really want to get my hands dirty. You do it.'"

"Why do I have to be the one that's interviewed somebody? The police, other people can deal with interviews and they can report to me what they do and I can direct them from that. It's not necessary for me to ask you about a specific event from your life for me to get a sense of whether or not you're a reliable individual."

ON THE ELECTION:

"I think any election needs to be about more than just a single case. I think the people who are trying to make this about the lacrosse case are saying, 'Well, the lacrosse case gives us a picture of how this office is going to handle all such cases in the future.' To which the first response is: What are the chances we're going to have another case that's anything like this?"

"The race is absolutely unprecedented. We've never seen anything like that. And just to give you an idea, the last five elections for district attorney prior to this time have had a total of four challengers. I have had four challengers in this one race."

ON HIS MISTAKES:

"I think it was pretty clear that I (misunderstood) the likely consequence of appearing on camera. Certainly what I was trying to do was to reassure the community, to encourage people with information to come forward. And that was clearly not the effect."

"Could I have done things different? Of course I could've done things differently. Can I do things differently in the future? Of course I can do things differently in the future. But at any time, I've got to do what I think is the right thing to do."

ON THE VOTERS:

"My guess is that a portion of the electorate is motivated solely by negative feelings, that they're out specifically to vote against me. ... Those aren't people who are likely to be undecided. ... But there again, in going back to our earlier conversation on the World Series, if it were all decided on paper, it would've been the Yankees and the Mets. You've got to play the games."

"Now I must say that the single good thing about all the publicity that I've gotten is that so many people know my face now that it's really easy for me to meet people. Before, literally very few people had any idea who I was, so I had to go up and introduce myself to everybody. And now I don't have to do that."

ON THE HIS ROLE AS A PROSECUTOR:

"Judges often have to choose between two or more less-than-totally-satisfactory results. And judges can't please everybody, either. But at least I never have to go forward with a case that I don't believe in. That's the good thing."
URL for this article: http://www.heraldsun.com/state/6-783249.html


185 posted on 10/30/2006 4:41:05 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: TommyDale
Blinco's is nowhere near the county line, which is miles from there

Unless someone completely neglected to mention where the incident took place (which would seem odd, "You are the owner of Blinco's Bar, located at 742 Evergreen Terrace in Springfield, right?") how would jurisdiction not be established?

186 posted on 10/30/2006 4:48:37 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: abb

Nifong: "What are the chances we're going to have

another case that's anything like this?"

Absolutely zero.


What are the chances this case is a complete fabrication?

One-Hundred Percent.



187 posted on 10/30/2006 4:51:23 PM PST by xoxoxox
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To: supercat

That's what I think as well. Only a TOTAL IDIOT District Attorney would try a case like that. On the other hand, this IS North Carolina.


188 posted on 10/30/2006 4:53:09 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: maggief

Ahhh...I had to look for the obligatory "WTF"! ;-)


189 posted on 10/30/2006 4:54:43 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: abb
"Could I have done things different? Of course I could've done things differently. Can I do things differently in the future? Of course I can do things differently in the future.

"Should I be thrown into prison for abusing my office & wasting taxpayer money to further my own agenda? Of course I should be thrown into prison for abusing my office & wasting taxpayer money to further my own agenda."

190 posted on 10/30/2006 5:04:06 PM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: abb

Herald-Sun Imagine that.


191 posted on 10/30/2006 5:16:13 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Sue Perkick

Back to the "bombshell,"

There is a reason for a rape victim to say she wanted marks on her. She would be more likely to be believed.




Posted by Lora at TalkLeft.
You can't make this stuff up.
Asking to be marked up proves she was raped.


192 posted on 10/30/2006 5:16:46 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
LOL. Bless their hearts. They're just the gift that keeps on giving. Crystal was probably lucky to string a coherent sentence together that night. It's more likely that the "rape" idea came about when she was asked if she had been raped. It was probably more like that SNL skit with Jon Lovitz, "the pathological liar". "Were you raped?"

"Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket."

193 posted on 10/30/2006 5:26:15 PM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: abb

Good grief.

Why is there always some constantly brewing pot of this kind of stuff in the media, that we wish would just go away.

Story! Just go away!

Did that work?


194 posted on 10/30/2006 5:30:27 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Sue Perkick

Nifong is probably considering using that line....


195 posted on 10/30/2006 5:35:05 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: abb; All
"Judges often have to choose between two or more less-than-totally-satisfactory results. And judges can't please everybody, either. But at least I never have to go forward with a case that I don't believe in. That's the good thing."

What in the world is this idiot trying to say here? Judges don't go forward with cases. Judges make some decisions as a case goes along and I bet for the most part they feel their evidentuary decisions are cut and dried.
196 posted on 10/30/2006 5:45:16 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS
And judges can't please everybody, either.

Well, today she pleased 2 bad cops and screwed one beaten cook

197 posted on 10/30/2006 5:55:59 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping!


198 posted on 10/30/2006 5:56:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Well at least there is one thing you can say about her. It didn't take her months to review motions...........


199 posted on 10/30/2006 6:43:25 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: JLS

Dropping the charges against the boys does not exonerate Liefong for his misconduct in bringing them in the first place, nor the identification process he used in this case, nor his unethical statements to the media and other lesser offenses.


200 posted on 10/30/2006 6:51:34 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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