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Nifong to give up more documents to defense (DukeLax)
Durham Herald-Sun ^ | October 27, 2006 | John Stevenson

Posted on 10/27/2006 5:00:15 AM PDT by abb

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Big headline on Drudge Report

OUTRAGE: 'Duke Lacrosse' Prosecutor Yet to Interview Rape Accuser 'About Facts of that Night'...

http://www.drudgereport.com


121 posted on 10/27/2006 2:32:25 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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To: SarahUSC

"I've had conversations with (the accuser) about how she's doing. I've had conversations with (the accuser) about her seeing her kids," Mike Nifong said. "I haven't talked with her about the facts of that night. ... We're not at that stage yet."


WTF?!?


122 posted on 10/27/2006 2:42:25 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Neverforget01
I just think in this case, the prejudice against the Yankees at Duke has had a huge exclamation point put on it, and I think that's too bad--for Duke.

If you're right, then it is bad for Duke. I still think it's more of a rich vs poor and race thing than north vs south. Also, the LAX players are from out of town, making them an easier target for the DA. It might be that Nifong doesn't give a hoot that they're Yankees; anybody but a Durham native may meet his requirements.

In any of the possible cases, however, it still makes Nifong an abusive bastard and Duke a bunch of disloyal cowards. At least. While I'm not one to usually throw the racist term, and I think it's thrown at southerners far more than is justified, if you're right then it also makes Duke a shade racist. There is lots of trashiness to go around, it seems.
123 posted on 10/27/2006 3:43:53 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

I was raised in Richmond and my step-father (originally from NJ) was a stickler for Southern manners.

That made us an oddity when we went to see our weird Yankee cousins. (Wierd because they were just strange, being Yankees had nothing to do with it)

Stop saying M'am because my Aunt thought is sounded smart-assed? I don't think so. Who cares what she thought, my father would send us to bed if we left M'am and other Southern words of respect out of a conversation.

In my adulthood, we lived in CNY for 17 years. People are people, but there are regional differences. My friends used to laugh at me. They said I sounded like Sgt Carter when I would say to my kids "Yes, what?" (Answer: "Yes, M'am')

To this day, I Please, Thank you, Sir and M'am 95% of the time. I am 52. I also make use of those NY gestures of disrespect, LOL! I am diverse.


124 posted on 10/27/2006 4:28:42 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: SarahUSC; All

It all seems so long ago.
Didn't he say he spoke with her, looked her in the eyes, something along those lines as the basis for pursing this case?

I recall he said he believed her because:_______. But I do not remember why.


125 posted on 10/27/2006 4:36:01 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Neverforget01
I am not a shrink either. But if someone isn't looking me in the eyes, in the back of my mind I wonder if they are being truthful to me.
126 posted on 10/27/2006 4:36:34 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Locomotive Breath

"Some (not all - SOME) of the northerners, and some from other parts of the country as well, including some of the students with whom I was associated all those years ago lacked a certain quality, highly valued in the south, known as tact. They were quite vocal about Durham's obvious deficiencies and rubbed everyone the wrong way including me. The New York wise guy just doesn't play well in Durham. I understand that nothing is really meant by it, and that said Yankee is expecting ridicule in return, but in Durham it still rankles to be ridiculed by a carpetbagger."

This is why the Triangle created Cary, NC.
Cary = Containment Area for Relocated Yankees.


127 posted on 10/27/2006 4:37:23 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Locomotive Breath
Next court date Dec. 15.

Good grief.

It seems judge Smith is as bad as the rest of the judges in North Carolina.

128 posted on 10/27/2006 4:40:44 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: xoxoxox
"I've had conversations with (the accuser) about how she's doing. I've had conversations with (the accuser) about her seeing her kids," District Attorney Mike Nifong said. "I haven't talked with her about the facts of that night. ...We're not at that stage yet."

Not at that stage yet? What is Nifong trying to make sure he will lose any future lawsuits?
129 posted on 10/27/2006 4:43:18 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

That sure does sound familiar. I think it was said early on.


130 posted on 10/27/2006 4:47:18 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: I want to know
I thought so, too. Wonder which side asked to use the documents?

Found the answer to my own question.

http://www.nbc17.com/news/10176659/detail.html

Also at Friday's hearing, Nifong handed the judge several envelopes of what he called medical evidence.

The defense has yet to see that information. The judge will ultimately determine whether it will be allowed in the trial.

131 posted on 10/27/2006 4:50:59 PM PDT by I want to know
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To: Hogeye13

Barry Saunders was joking about moving Duke there. At this point, if they could snap their fingers and do it, keeping Duke Chapel, etc,. I'd bet that most of the Dukies would be in favor.


132 posted on 10/27/2006 5:34:26 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

You know, I was thinking today he said he believed her because he'd looked into her eyes and could tell that she was telling the truth.


133 posted on 10/27/2006 5:36:16 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

He told one of the PACs he was trying to get an endorsement from that of all the DA candidates he was the only one to interview the accuser. Now he says he has never interviewed her. Fortumately, that PAC didn't endorse him.

It just proves he'll say anything though.


134 posted on 10/27/2006 5:41:02 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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To: CondorFlight

Yeah it is not like everyone else hasn't reported Nifong to the bar. He talks like a guy who knows he will be disbarred and is just stringing this out.

On the other two issues:

1. As I said on the other thread we have had long discussions about that 1 October claim not to have talked to Mangum. I believe he is just lying. I wonder sometimes if he is doing it for sport to see if the old media will keep reporting what he says as if it is true. And they do lie after lie.

2. I expect nothing new in this "new" discovery. Remember he has already given the defense lots of duplicate pages.


135 posted on 10/27/2006 5:43:48 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Locomotive Breath

I remember thinking it sounds like Bush and Putin.


136 posted on 10/27/2006 5:48:40 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Locomotive Breath

More opinion

http://betsyspage.blogspot.com/2006/10/more-evidence-of-what-slime-mike.html

http://www.anklebitingpundits.com/content/index.php?p=1019

http://www.bullwinkleblog.com/?p=2557


137 posted on 10/27/2006 5:49:23 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Nifong: DA's office has not interviewed alleged victim about case details
Finnerty's parents say he would be proud to return to school, team

Saidi Chen, The Chronicle, 10/27/06
--excerpts--

"One of the most interesting things to me of course is Mr. Nifong did admit that he in fact has basically never talked to this woman and has absolutely no idea what her story is, and yet he has chosen to continue to go forward with this case," Joe Cheshire, an attorney representing Evans, said outside the courtroom. **"I believe there's other stuff coming out about [the alleged victim] at the time that will be interesting."**

Although the three indicted players were not at the hearing, numerous friends and family members-including members of this year's men's lacrosse team-were in attendance, some sporting badges that read "Innocent until proven innocent."

"I just had to be here and see what was going on," said Mary Ellen Finnerty, Collin's mother, about her first experience at a court appearance in the case. "I think it's good to be here and see the very formidable defense bench."

Both of Finnerty's parents said he would return to the University and re-join the lacrosse team if the charges are dropped.

"Collin would love nothing more than to be back on the field with his friends and teammates under [men's lacrosse head] coach [John] Danowski's leadership," his father Kevin Finnerty said. "Hopefully he'll get the chance.... It's hard to predict how this is going to turn out."

"If all the pieces fall into place he would be proud to be on the field with all his teammates," Mary Ellen Finnerty added.

Seligmann, however, said in a "60 Minutes" interview that he is uncertain whether he will return to Duke once the legal proceedings are resolved.

"I chose Duke to be my home for four years. And to see your professors go out and slander you and say these horrible, untrue things about you and to have your administration just cut us loose for, for, based on nothing," Seligmann told CBS News correspondent Ed Bradley. "I can't imagine representing a school that didn't want to represent me."

Kevin Finnerty said he and his family have been let down by the school, but they are hoping things will change.

"We're disappointed to date, but we'd like to think that the University will come in and save the day," he said. "That they'll find their way to support these boys and really announce the presumption of innocence, and we're patiently waiting."

The next hearing in the case is scheduled for Dec. 15.

http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/
2006/10/27/News/Nifong.Das.Office.Has.Not.Interviewed.
Alleged.Victim.About.Case.Details-2407348.shtml?norewrite
200610272116&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com


138 posted on 10/27/2006 6:22:52 PM PDT by xoxoxox
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Monks says either he or Cheek should withdraw
Leslie Griffith, The Chronicle, 10/27/06

Durham District Attorney candidate Steve Monks asserted his electability but committed to withdraw if it would help defeat incumbent Mike Nifong at a press conference Friday afternoon.

Monks, who is running as a write-in candidate, encouraged the other Nifong opponent, Lewis Cheek, to withdraw and support his campaign. Cheek has said he would not serve if elected.

"I have concluded that it is improbable that either Lewis Cheek or I will prevail if both of us stay in the race," Monks said.

Monks added that he was unwilling to support Cheek but willing to withdraw if convinced Cheek could win.

Monks countered a recent poll in the Raleigh News and Observer that gave him 2 percent of the vote with another poll giving him 22 percent. Poll results were inaccurate, Monks said, because he had not yet begun his media campaign.

Representatives for the Cheek campaign said they would not withdraw and cancelled a scheduled meeting with Monks after hearing his statement.

"We are unequivocally not pulling out," said Brenda Brewer, chair of the "Recall Nifong, Vote Cheek" campaign.

"I've looked at his analysis, and I'm an accountant," she added. "Two percent, two weeks before an election? Add the numbers up yourself."

http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2006/10/27/News/Monks.Says.Either.He.Or.Cheek.
Should.Withdraw-2407118.shtml?norewrite200610272126&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com


139 posted on 10/27/2006 6:29:07 PM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: xoxoxox

Let's see:

1. Gee Mr. Monks who is in the single digits? That is the person who should withdraw.

2. UNFORTUNATELY, my guess is that even if he withdraws Monks will remain a legal write in candidate and will still get some votes.

3. If he is to withdraw Monks needs to go ahead and do it so all his supporters can get the word NOT to write him in.


140 posted on 10/27/2006 6:36:48 PM PDT by JLS
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