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Indian Navy declines to buy British Sea Harriers
Indo-Asian News Service ^ | October 13, 2006

Posted on 10/13/2006 7:14:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Jeff Head
Image hosted by Photobucket.com true story... one of the first Americans to fly backseat in a Harrier off of the ski jump ramp was told by the pilot that...

"The flight will be uneventful, however... if there is any problems on take off there will be NO time for communications and you will immediately see me eject.

That will be your cue that all is no longer well."

21 posted on 10/13/2006 11:46:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Jeff Head
I'm a huge Harrier fan.

You just gotta love an attack aircraft which can land in and take off from someones backyard.

If it's good enough for the Marines...

L

22 posted on 10/13/2006 11:49:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Fear is the inspiration for stupidity.)
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To: Lurker
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Marine version is MUCH superior to the Brit version... with a 30 to 40 percent bigger solid wing let alone the electrics/avionics.
23 posted on 10/14/2006 12:24:21 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

The US AV-8B is the only true multi-role harrier.The Brits divided their load with the Sea Harrier for airdefence & Gr-5/Gr-7 variants for ground attack.The Sea Harrier FA-2 is considered the best fighter variant.


24 posted on 10/14/2006 1:49:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Image hosted by Photobucket.com of just the Brits or the US too...??? if so it's prolly cause it lighter, no?
25 posted on 10/14/2006 2:03:26 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Lurker
The F-35B...which some people are naysaying, but which I believe will not only be deployed but will have a long and successful serevice life like the Harrier, will be that way too. Except it will be able to go supersonic, will be more manueverable, will be more survivable in a modern air battle environment, and will carry more ordinance.

It will give our PHIBRONS a much better strike capablity, particually when the future AEW and ASW variants of the V-22 are deployed (my own conjecture). The WASPS and the future LHX vessels will then truly be able to operate in the Sea Control role and their normal Ampbibious assault role with a LOT more autonomy...freeing the super carriers up to operate more freely too.

Our allies VTOL carriers will be much more capable at that time too.

I know these developments are costly...and not without their technical problems. but that's what happens when you push the envelope. And we are doing it in this regard and I believe we will prevaile and be successful.

Just my opinion.

26 posted on 10/14/2006 6:52:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Chode

Thanks...great story that!


27 posted on 10/14/2006 6:53:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Chode

All Harrier variants incl. American ones.The FA-2 got a better radar,the SeaVixen,in addition to carrying AMRAAMS all the time.Flipside is that it has little real ground attack capabilitiy


28 posted on 10/16/2006 4:49:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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I agree. The F-35 will get built, and it will come to be recognized as an absolutely first class war machine.

Granted, it does not have the full capabilities of an F-22. But it is not intended to. That is not its role. It is to the F-22 what the F-16 is to the F-15.

The "popular wisdom" that insists on dissing the F-35 is woefully uneducated about the aircraft. Its critics are a flock of parrots brainlessly repeating what they heard some other parrot squawk.

29 posted on 10/16/2006 4:57:21 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles; Lurker
Yes..it is going to be one fine bird.


30 posted on 10/16/2006 5:11:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Pssst. The Indian Navy Harrier are the UK built version. They are extremely happy with them. The UK refused to sell them with the radar or missile package. The missile technology is the AMRAAM (US).


31 posted on 10/21/2006 1:15:12 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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The UK versions aren't even as reliable as the relatively unreliable McBoeing version. I'm sure they're happy to have an aircraft they can float carriers with, but the performance is still lacking.
32 posted on 10/21/2006 2:49:06 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Tommyjo

I think there was no problem with selling the Sea-Vixen radar package given that the RN now has practically no use of them.Infact it was offered to the IN a few years ago when it first sought to upgrade the Sea Harrier.The AMRAAMs would have been different given that they are American.I think that the problem was the IN would have tied itself in knots if it had 2 different Harrier fleets-one operating the Israeli ELM-2032 & the new ones the Sea Vixen.The IN's relatively low budget would have made upgrading the newer Harriers with the Elta radars unviable.


33 posted on 10/25/2006 8:44:09 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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