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SOLD! America II
Renew America ^ | September 14, 2006 | Bonnie Alba

Posted on 09/15/2006 5:40:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oh, thought this was about America II, the mid-80's 12-metre yacht... ;>)


21 posted on 09/15/2006 6:18:16 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sophomore dies in kiln explosion? Oh My God! I just talked to her last week...)
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To: Dane

Ike built it with Americans for America.


22 posted on 09/15/2006 6:18:19 AM PDT by winodog (Buchanan is the new Perot.)
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To: Wolfie
So our gov't screws up our economy with over-regulation and taxes, and then turns around and helps those companies burdened by same move over seas. And the American worker? Heck, there's always the military.

US soldiers will be needed to protect US investements abroad.

23 posted on 09/15/2006 6:19:02 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Maryland and Virginia have superhighways connecting them

For you there is no difference between Maryland on one side and Alberta or Chihuahua on the other.

24 posted on 09/15/2006 6:21:32 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: winodog
Ike built it with Americans for America.

And expanding the American Interstate system will not be built with American subcontractors and labor?

What is that Spanish/Australian consortium do, import construction equipment and labor from Spain and Australia. That would be economically stupid on their part.

But what the hey, just like a good DUmmie, you have your talking point for the day, without thinking things through.

25 posted on 09/15/2006 6:24:13 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane; winodog
[Dane to winodog] just like a good DUmmie, you have your talking point for the day

I did not know that DUmmies are opposed to NAFTA and globalization. Maybe I should check their site.

26 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:36 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: Tokra
Nice Econ101 summary. Wages can only increase in proportion to productivity. Absent that linkage, wage increases merely drive inflation, with the end result that everyone is back at square 1. (Except that savings/debt has been depreciated, which is why inflation is bad - everyone shifts savings to debt to ride the bubble).

It's the same argument against the minimum wage - it does absolutely nothing to increase anyone's 'living wage'. It also impacts 'official' unemployment rates, because employers simply move to the blackmarket ie illegal immigrants.

27 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:41 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: A. Pole
I did not know that DUmmies are opposed to NAFTA and globalization. Maybe I should check their site.

They are, and A. Pole, IMO, you feel right at home there at DU.

28 posted on 09/15/2006 6:30:02 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Chuck Dent
Nice Econ101 summary. Wages can only increase in proportion to productivity.

So what happens when the wages are decreased few times because the work is being done in a Third World country?

"Let London manufacture those fine fabrics of hers to her heart's content; let Holland her chambrays; Florence her cloth; the Indies their beaver and vicuna; Milan her brocade, Italy and Flanders their linens...so long as our capital can enjoy them; the only thing it proves is that all nations train their journeymen for Madrid, and that Madrid is the queen of Parliaments, for all the world serves her and she serves nobody." (Prominent Spanish official - Alfonso Nunez de Castro in 1675)

29 posted on 09/15/2006 6:31:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: Dane
They are, and A. Pole, IMO, you feel right at home there at DU.

Do you have some quotes and links, please?

30 posted on 09/15/2006 6:31:54 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole
US soldiers will be needed to protect US investements abroad.

That seems to be the trend. Of course, its never called that. Hard to get somebody to risk life and limb for some CEO's stock options.

31 posted on 09/15/2006 6:35:44 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: A. Pole
Do you have some quotes and links, please?

LOL! Are you such a unionbot that you can't do it for yourself.

Gee how hard is it to go to Dogpile, Ask.com., Google, and type in the keywords, DemocratsUnderground.

Like I said A.Pole, you will find your home at DU, especially economically.

32 posted on 09/15/2006 6:36:58 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

True, but opposing the interstate system at the time didn't necessarily mean they were against highways per se, there were some very valid reasons to oppose the manner in which the whole deal was sold. And federal highway money for repairs have long been used as a sort of club in which to beat the various states into legislative submission on certain issues, the template of pseudo-extortion.


33 posted on 09/15/2006 6:38:18 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Dane
LOL! Are you such a unionbot that you can't do it for yourself.

Wait a minute. You said that you already have read it at DU.

Why don't you post what YOU have read? Or maybe you made it up and you want me to waste time in search for something that does not exist?

34 posted on 09/15/2006 6:47:30 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole

Have you been to maryland? :-)


Disclaimer. I was actually born in Baltimore, Maryland. And I actually like the place. I was just poking fun at their bizarre politics and inability to even run a simple primary election (for example).

And of course the parking lot that we call roads up here, because for some reason half the people in the area want to live in maryland and work in virginia, while the other half want to live in virginia and work in maryland.


35 posted on 09/15/2006 6:48:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: A. Pole
Wait a minute. You said that you already have read it at DU.

Why don't you post what YOU have read? Or maybe you made it up and you want me to waste time in search for something that does not exist?

Per FR rules DU(DemocratsUnderground) posts and threads are generally frowned upon by FR's owner, especially in the news section of FR.

That said, that does stop me or you from looking at what the general economic/political sense is at DU.

Like I said A.Pole, IMO, you would find a more receiving audience for your marxist economics at DU.

36 posted on 09/15/2006 6:53:18 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: A. Pole
So what happens when the wages are decreased few times because the work is being done in a Third World country?

How are wages decreased by shifting production overseas? If a US textile plant is closed where the prevailing wage was $20/hr, and moved to China where it is $2/hr, how have US wages dropped?

Former employees are no longer employed; we may have increased unemployment, but not "falling" wages. Now, the key questions are: is this unemployment permanent, and if not, what new jobs created as capital is freed up to pursue other opportunities?

This is why education/training are so important. For example, what happens if Toyota decides to open a mfg plant in the vicinity of the textile operations? (Which is happening all over the South.) Now our former textile worker is making $30/hr, but paying for jeans that only cost $2/hr to produce.

This, btw, is a short explanation of why real estate prices have increased so dramatically: low inflation=low interest rates + high job formation= asset appreciation in key geog sectors.

37 posted on 09/15/2006 6:54:56 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...For example: My husband complains every time he wants to buy another pair of Levis. Used to be, up until the late 90s, he could walk into any Levi-stocked store, pick up a pair in his size and never have to try them on. Aaah!! Now he must try them on 1) to see if they fit, one size can vary by two inches and 2) check the cut of the bias-seams, as now we can't be sure if the legs will hang straight or one leg may slant to the side....

Same thing with Dockers. I have to make sure I get the ones made in Vietnam in my size because those made in Cambodia in my size don't fit.

Aaarrgh.

38 posted on 09/15/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: Dane
Do not post texts. Just send the link. Well, you cannot because it DOES NOT EXIST! Dems are globalists like you.
39 posted on 09/15/2006 6:57:54 AM PDT by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more.)
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To: A. Pole
Do not post texts. Just send the link. Well, you cannot because it DOES NOT EXIST! Dems are globalists like you.

LOL! DUmmies are just as anti-NAFTA as you are. It's a fact. Sorry to burst your bubble.

40 posted on 09/15/2006 7:00:45 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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